I havent made a natural bow in a while & was cleaning out the corner of shame & found a old exsperment this hickory bow was the fastest self bow I had ever made but broke down quickly do to over stress so I shelved it & said some day come back later & make a sinew version its going to be 64" , 13" handle/riser , 19 " of working limb and 8 " of leavers Im thinking taking it down to around 35 lb guess sense Im only tillering to 12" prior to sinew and heat treating prior to sinew, Im only sinewing the working limbs the hickory stave has been inside @ 50% RH for 3 yrs so should be good to go !