two-fletch test

[Dustybaer]

thanks recurve.  i'll know more tomorrow, when i try them on a 3-D range.  i'll keep y'all posted 

[Dustybaer]

i shot them all day today, even had friends shoot them off their bows.  you see the result on the picture.  i have removed the fletching and will start from scratch.  i'm really doing it because pat didn't like my uneven wrapping, but since pat is big-headed enough, i'll pretend it was a technical necessity.  the drag is too much,so i decided to trim the feathers down to 5" length and about 3/8" hight.  then i'll wrappemup again and start the next test 

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[recurve shooter]

...yay.

[Pat B]

Marius, Even though you talk bad about me  I still look up to you and want to copy you.         Here is a 2 fletch I made yesterday. I shot it this morning and if flew very well. I will make a few more like it soon.       
    Pat

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[Dustybaer]

i see you have significantly less helical on yours.  what size fletching did you use?  i do like that red.  and i'm re-fletching a dozen arrows just to please you, so, if that's not respect and admiration, i don't know what is 

[Pat B]

This is my first so with the others I will add more helical. This one flew straight but didn't seem to spin much. I'll have to try one with an broadhead on it and see how they do. If they work well I plan to hunt with them.  I used full length store bought feathers and burned them to 5 1/2" to 6".
  I would call it fear more than respect and admiration.     Pat

[recurve shooter]

pat, nice arra, but would ya please KILL THAT DEER!?!?

just kiddin. i know it a target.

[Traxx]

The man,that turned me on to 2 fletch,Gordy Mickens,says he has used 4" fletch with good results.That is with broadheads.I have used em with broadheads as well,and got good flight,but not at large game like Elk.Gordy and Jim,use Right wing feathers and dont put alot of hellical to em.More of just an Offset really.

[Traxx]

These guys dont shoot primitive,but i dont see,that it would make a difference.Here it is,in Jims own words.
http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?threadid=161439&category=88#1963730

[Pat B]

OK Marius. This is #2. A bit more helical and on sourwood instead of cane. I haven't had a chance to test it yet but will tomorrow afternoon.   Also, if the pics show up well enough, is a field point idea Kenneth(Little John) had. It is pieces of blade material that is pre cut to a certain shape(I'll post pics of these and the ones he made for cane), inserted in a slot like trade point and glued in. There is an indented area just behind the point for a wrap. I used art. sinew and super glue. I used TBIII to set the point but didn't let it cure long enough before I messed with it(wife told me so!  ) so I re-glued with super glue.     Pat

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[Pat B]

Sorry for the poor quality of pics. Its late and these are taken inside. I'll try to get better pics of the points themselves and installed on the arrows tomorrow .
  Recurve, you didn't see the one out at the end of the yard near the bright green bush. This pic was taken from my front porch where I practice my tree stand shooting. I have another deer set up to the right at about 3oclock(out of sight) at 20 yards and through some bushes. Pat

[Dustybaer]

traxx, thanks for the link.  that was very interesting reading.  it's great to see that somebody tried a similar setup successfully.  (and the guy has a 25" draw, just like me    i feel better now)

pat, your number two is beautiful.  there's something  about those helicals, especially when viewed from the side.  i remember the points you're talking about.  great idea.  i'll try a few, when i get the bandsaw stock from VB.  but of course the main purpose of that stock is to make tradepoints for my two-fletched babies.

now back to your arrows, i'm curios to see how yours perform in comparison between number one and number two, especially at longer distances.  mine did well on short distances, but dropped noticeably compared to my three-fletched ones of the same weight.  that tells me:  too much drag caused by either feathers being too big or too much helical.  your test might answer that question 

oh, forgot to ask:  how tall are your feathers?  (you said they're about 5.5" to 6" long, right?)  mine are 5.5" long and 5/8" (16mm) tall.

[Pat B]

#1 is 3/4" and #2 is 7/8" tall.  I'll test fly them this evening.     Pat

[hawkbow]

Traxx , Gordy Mickens from the Bitterroot valley? I used to hunt those mountains in my youth, before all the people moved into that country.. and there was a bowyer there by that name .. just wondering. Hawk

[Dustybaer]

pat, since yours aren't as tall as mine, it must have been too much helical.  can't wait for your test results.  even though it's somewhat predictable that #2 will be slower than #1, i just wonder how much it drops in comparison.  are the two arrows similar in weight?