Help with wood ID

[goomba]

Thanks Mike - I haven't worked with black walnut yet. It does have a faint
pleasant odor to it though.

Thanks Pappy.

Thanks Bassman - Just want to make sure I understand what you're saying:
 You floor tiller when it is green and put it on a backset form until dry and
heat treat before removing from form.
How much backset do you loose after final tillering?
Do you heat treat during final tillering and after?

[goomba]

Thanks gutpile - The pith is brown. I looked on the internet
for hickory barks and it is similar to bitternut hickory.

Thanks dylanholderman.

[PatM]

Thanks gutpile - The pith is brown. I looked on the internet
for hickory barks and it is similar to bitternut hickory.

Thanks dylanholderman.

 Not that similar to bitternut, certainly not young bitternut.

[goomba]

Thanks bassman.

After looking again I agree PatM,

The first one is bitternut (mature I guess)
The second is my wood.

[goomba]

 I've heat treated 5 bows. The first two were with a heat gun but that
got busted when it fell on the floor. The last three bows I used a butane
torch. It's a little tricky but as long as you keep in moving fairly fast
you don't get any burnt areas. It only takes about 2 or three minutes
on each limb. A lot quicker than the heat gun.

[PatM]

You're probably not heat treating it well that way.

[goomba]

Can you explain why not?

[PatM]

It seems to take longer for the heat to penetrate deep enough into the limb to make the most difference.     Wood insulates pretty well.

[goomba]

 You know more about this heat treating stuff than I do so you're
probably correct. When I do it the belly gets very hot to the touch
and shortly after the back of the limb gets hot but not as hot
as the belly. So the heat appears to be traveling through the wood.
 My limbs are usually around 3/8" thick or a little less.
  It appears to make the limbs a little stiffer but maybe it's
just my imagination.

[straightarrow]

Looks like red elm to me. The bark and the Heartwood

[PEARL DRUMS]

Looks like red elm to me. The bark and the Heartwood

Good to see I'm not the only one who sees that . 

[gutpile]

after further observation I agree not hickory.. the heartwood would need to be almost 5 sided to be hickory... gut

[ksnow]

I usually don't get into these wood ID posts, as they usually devolve into arguments and we never find out the real answer. Leaves are the best way to identify wood. On these pieces, the bark says elm, maybe walnut, definitely not any hickory I've seen in WI. The inside says walnut to me, the heart wood is a tad darker than our red elm.
That said, let it season a year or so, then hit it with a draw knife. You'll figure out in less than a half a second if it's elm or walnut. Walnut will work like warm butter, the elm will laugh in your face.

Kyle

[Dante_F]

Walnut

[straightarrow]

Pearl drums, Blackhawk and I cut some several years back. The Heartwood was blood red but when it dried it turned brown like Walnut. I still have a piece, if I make it to the wood shed this weekend I'll take a picture of it.