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Offline Scyth

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. . . any practitioners of Mongolian release . . .
« on: December 26, 2018, 01:53:58 pm »
. . . any practitioners of Mongolian release . . .

. . . I put the post in the “Bows” section because I didn’t notice anything about thumb ring . . .

Needless to say is it my go to release.
( . . . that is say to my thumb ring is always my thumb . . . )

I chose it for ergonomic reasons :

- better overall posture of both shoulders i.e. low shoulders on the arms
- much less tear on the muscles & tendons
- much less abrasion on the joints & bones
- no finger pinch
- better control of the release

My favorite ring is of Quebracho wood that I built myself (pictures below) :
design is an Ottoman/Mughal.

regards,

Scyth
« Last Edit: December 26, 2018, 02:21:45 pm by Scyth »
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Offline EdwardS

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Re: . . . any practitioners of Mongolian release . . .
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2018, 04:58:39 pm »
I shoot Mongolian and Manchu out of necessity.  My fingers were crushed in an accident and don't open or shut right.  I make my own rings as well.  Need to make a new one.  Any questions just let me know.

Offline Scyth

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2018, 06:34:13 pm »
Edwards -

I’ve been exclusively shooting Mongolian release since 2014.

I had a really bad stroke : no speech function, partially paralyzed on the right side, the right shoulder is frozen (it has improved gradually), I fed through a tube in my side for three months, etc.

The Western style or “Form” of archery was impossible.

 I tried and tried and tried some more . . . it was dark time.

I needed a new paradigm.

I did some research . . . . the ergonomics for the thumb ring appeared to be a possible answer . . . the rest is history.

(pictured  : my Manchu thumb ring)

regards,

Scyth
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and I will carry on my work a long as I can . . . "

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Offline Hawkdancer

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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2018, 07:45:24 pm »
Scyth,
Interesting!  Do you have some action pics showing the hold and perhaps the release sequence?  That may be real helpful to other shooters with bad hands and ailments.  Thanks,
Hawkdancer
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Offline EdwardS

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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2018, 07:46:56 pm »
I've been through five strokes myself.  They're a hell on earth to get over.  Glad you are making improvements.  Did you carve that ban zhi yourself?

Offline Scyth

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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2018, 08:25:14 pm »

HawkDancer -

My two Bibles for this are :

1.) “The Way of Archery” by Jie Tian & Justin Ma

http://www.thewayofarchery.com/

2.) “The Art of Shooting a Short Reflexed Bow with a Thumb Ring” by Adam Swododa

https://www.thelongbowshop.com/products/the-art-of-shooting-a-short-reflexed-bow-with-a-thumb-ring

The authors explain it far better than I can !

. . . plus people with infirmities are always different : to experience first-hand is best teacher . . .

regards,

Scyth
"Retirement is not a word in the dictionary of craftsmen
and I will carry on my work a long as I can . . . "

- Yang Fuxi

Offline Scyth

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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2018, 08:30:58 pm »

Edward -

No.

It was built by a ring maker in Beijing . . .

regards,

Scyth
 



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Offline mullet

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2018, 05:00:46 am »
I do when shooting my horn bows. I have a few different rings but lately I'm just shooting with a bare thumb.
Lakeland, Florida
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Offline Scyth

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2018, 10:41:46 am »
 
Mullet -

Be aware of tendon damage !

I have a few friend that experienced inflamed tendon or - worse - permanent damage to the main tendon of the thumb .

. . . especially those shooting higher weights of bows . . .

I have a thumb stall (courtesy of Saxton Pope) that I use instead of the thumb rings (pictured below) . . . it is made of lightweight buffalo leather and sinew . . .

regards,

Scyth

"Retirement is not a word in the dictionary of craftsmen
and I will carry on my work a long as I can . . . "

- Yang Fuxi

Offline mullet

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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2018, 06:27:01 am »
I also have one that is similar made and sold by Jaap.
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Offline ohma2

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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2018, 08:33:26 am »
If ever in the columbia mo. Area go to the Burt Grayson museum at the university .the thumb rings on display from around the world  are pieces of fine art .need to see to believe.