so what's a good design for 40# @24" draw?

[PatM]

 23" actually.    There was an article on  Nelson Hoffman (Bob's protégé and friend) on  this style of bow about 20 years ago in PA.

 It was very interesting that they settled on those dimensions despite not naturally having that short a draw.

[Stick Bender]

If I remember right in his book he had a short range of lengths he made ,I was going to try 57" & try to get it out a little farther now you got wanting to reread the book  with the shorter statics kind of defies most thinking on leaver type bows, but it's a interesting bow !

[PatM]

Why do the short statics defy thinking?  You mean because of the length of the bow or just the tip length?

[bradsmith2010]

I ve been studying that book,, he doesnt like deflex either,, as you can see he has induced reflex in the handle, that seems to not be popular so much now,, but I like it,, and think the bow probably shoots as well as most well designed bows,, I have not made one,,
He mentions quite a few times that the Sioux liked shorter bows, shooting 23 inch arrows,, it takes skill to shoot a shorter bow and arrow,, but there must have been advantages for them to settle on those specs,,,,

[Stick Bender]

Just the shorter tip length of 6 in" is different but then again it's non working any how,but I like how he pin knocks the bow using all the limb, I did that on my last osage bow , but my guess is if you built his bow at his specs for a short draw it has to be a fast bow I would think !

[bradsmith2010]

I will add,, that the shorter bow may not have been an issue,,and there ability as archers was not effected, or skill level was such that they were effecient with the shorter bow,, some feel is not accurate or more difficult to master,, I have always wondered about this,,,

[Stick Bender]

I suppose if that the only bow you had was a short draw bow and you shot it a lot you would get good with it , I'm lucky if I get a day a week to practice and I can barley keep up with my 64" hunting bow but it would be fun building that Martin bow I think those short draw short limb bows probably have a lot going for them efficiently ,high return speed & low mass !

[PatM]

Just the shorter tip length of 6 in" is different but then again it's non working any how,but I like how he pin knocks the bow using all the limb, I did that on my last osage bow , but my guess is if you built his bow at his specs for a short draw it has to be a fast bow I would think !

 Different from what?  Many static tipped bows had short static sections.

[Stick Bender]

Just meant different from a longer leaver type bow Pat !

[Badger]

  I would build the bow at least 62" long, take advanatage of a bow not taking set or stacking, I was testing a 28" draw bow at 24" draw yesterday and was surprised that I was getting 165 fps with 10 grains per pound. It would have been faster had it not been tillered out to 28"

[DC]

Does someone have a description of or link to a Martin type bow? It would be nice to know what you're talking about.

[PatM]

h ttps://books.google.ca/books?id=xMF4OqmebHEC&pg=PA45&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

fix the gap in the link and scroll down the pages.

[Traxx]

Steve,,,

In What style,are your specs,in reference to?

[DC]

h ttps://books.google.ca/books?id=xMF4OqmebHEC&pg=PA45&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

fix the gap in the link and scroll down the pages.

That just got me to google Books homepage

[PatM]

It works for me.  How about just locating the book on there and going from there?