so what's a good design for 40# @24" draw?

[stuckinthemud]

Right, first thing first, I hate bows that stack at the end of the draw, and I dislike string angles that make shooting 3-under un-comfortable, I also really enjoy technical challenges but I do not have the time and equipment for glue/lam bows.  Baring all that in mind, what would you consider a great design for flight/3-D work for someone with a 24" draw that likes shooting between 35 and 40#? Anything goes, including sinew, horn, r/d, hollow-limb, hooks, sijahs...

[PatM]

The Bob Martin design in Laubin's book is about as good as you'll find.   I'd be curious to know what sort of bow is giving you stack and finger pinch at  24" though.

[stuckinthemud]

I have a 52" ttt, 51" ntn yew character shorty that stacks a lot over the last inch or two of draw, it's fun to shoot just to see the look on people's faces when they see that, first it didn't snap, and then, how hard it punches an arrow, but, I don't enjoy putting more than a few arrows through it at any one time.

[Hawkdancer]

PatM,
Which Laubin book are you talking about?  Thanks,
Hawkdancer

[stuckinthemud]

His book American Indian Archery in the chapter on sinew bows

[Del the cat]

Simple primitive limbs the shape of Willow leaves, about 1 1/2" - 1 3/4" wide tapering to about 1/4" .
Narrowed at the grip, flat belly, curved back following the shape of the log.
62" or more long. No fancy recurve, flip tips etc.
Clean simple effective.
Del

[stuckinthemud]

Little version of Meare Heath with narrower tips?

[PatM]

I took the "enjoy technical challenges" part seriously.  If you just want to drop that then go with what Del suggested.  More like a shrunken Sudbury.

[stuckinthemud]

The technical challenge is important, my interest here is what the Forum opinion is on what makes a good all-round bow with a low draw weight and a short draw-length - the vast majority of bows I see are optimised for over 26" draw length and above 40# draw weight, these designs may or may not be the best suited to my specs, I'd like to know what you all think 

[PatM]

 A bow more designed along flight lines then.

[Del the cat]

The technical challenge is important, my interest here is what the Forum opinion is on what makes a good all-round bow with a low draw weight and a short draw-length - the vast majority of bows I see are optimised for over 26" draw length and above 40# draw weight, these designs may or may not be the best suited to my specs, I'd like to know what you all think 

Flight/3D work is a complete contradiction in terms.
I've tried shooting flight bows at 3D... hopeless, you want long & smooth for 3D and short sharp & punchy for flight.
Del

[Del the cat]

Little version of Meare Heath with narrower tips?

Yup
But flight/3D is a contradiction
Del

[stuckinthemud]

I'd err more on the side of 3d then

[PatM]

The technical challenge is important, my interest here is what the Forum opinion is on what makes a good all-round bow with a low draw weight and a short draw-length - the vast majority of bows I see are optimised for over 26" draw length and above 40# draw weight, these designs may or may not be the best suited to my specs, I'd like to know what you all think 

Flight/3D work is a complete contradiction in terms.
I've tried shooting flight bows at 3D... hopeless, you want long & smooth for 3D and short sharp & punchy for flight.
Del

   Not when you have a 24" draw though.     The Martin style of bow was the end product of years of experimenting on living 3D targets and it's a dead ringer in every way for the old flight bows that shot 500 yards.

[Stick Bender]

The Martin bow in laubin's book is a neat bow ,it always caught my interest , I have a pristine 57 in. osage stave slotted for it been aging a couple years inside when I get around to it ,I think Laubin drew 24-25 in bet that little bow would be fast all though you see few made !