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Offline DC

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Joining Backing strips
« on: February 24, 2018, 04:29:13 pm »
My backing strips are 4' long so I have to join them. I was thinking "Z" splice but when the strips are just over 1/8" thick that doesn't make for much gluing surface. Is a flat scarf the best method?

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2018, 04:41:46 pm »
If you are making a rigid handle bow, you can just butt them together. Then if it makes you feel better, you can  glue an overlay on the back of the backing at the joint. If you use a Z or WW splice, there will not be much of the splice left after you narrow the handle.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2018, 06:04:26 pm »
A butt joint or scarf joint is plenty sufficient especially if an overlay is added like Jim said.
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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 08:35:58 pm »
I guess a butt joint could work. I have used a 2" long splice, chiselled and then hand planed down flat, just to give the join a little more integrity. I used TB 3. The bows I made like this were essentially stiff handled but must have had some stress into the handle, because the join started to lift. Glued on an overlay and wrapped with string soaked in epoxy. Works really well.

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2018, 06:26:02 am »
Put a 45degree angle on your but joints and glue together with super glue. The angle can be achieved by a 1x2cut on 45 then put your laminate next to the 1x2 and grind your angle on a belt sander.   Arvin
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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2018, 07:19:46 am »
You can also glue up each limb separately. Then join them together with a Z splice. Like a billet self bow.
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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2018, 09:05:12 am »
This is how I do it when I am using 2 backing strips on a deflex handle

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2018, 10:13:44 am »
Am I seeing an extra layer in there Marc. I see the two backing strips and then a continuous layer and then the billets. Is the middle one an overlay to strengthen the splice? Do you steam the ends of the backing strips?

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2018, 10:19:48 am »
That looks like a power lam to me

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2018, 10:21:38 am »
I thought a power strip was on the belly side, but I don't know.

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2018, 10:25:10 am »
Typically the power lam is glued between the backing strip and the belly wood

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2018, 10:26:20 am »
Put a 45degree angle on your but joints and glue together with super glue. The angle can be achieved by a 1x2cut on 45 then put your laminate next to the 1x2 and grind your angle on a belt sander.   Arvin
Wouldn't this be considered a scarf joint?

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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2018, 10:40:15 am »
Put a 45degree angle on your but joints and glue together with super glue. The angle can be achieved by a 1x2cut on 45 then put your laminate next to the 1x2 and grind your angle on a belt sander.   Arvin
Wouldn't this be considered a scarf joint?

I guess so but no matter the name would it not work. After all it's just to hold it together during lay up of the bow correct? Or maybe I misunderstood the?.   Arvin
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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2018, 10:49:30 am »
Typically the power lam is glued between the backing strip and the belly wood
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Re: Joining Backing strips
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2018, 11:18:06 am »
An overlay can be made with left over backing material then blended into the backing. No wrap needed in a rigid handle bow. If it was a bendy handle them I'd add a wrap.
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