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Offline aaron

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tiller check
« on: January 29, 2018, 03:18:57 pm »
Just got this one to a low brace. 60 inch yew- going for bendy handle, and also a narrowed handle. The handle is 1 1/4 wide. Then the width flares to 1 5/8 before narrowing to 3/8 tips. It was a 3" dia branch off come "landscape" yew growing in a sunny spot near the Oregon coast. So, I decrowned it.
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Offline JWMALONE

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2018, 08:27:02 pm »
Is the right limb stiffer on purpose?
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Offline DuBois

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2018, 08:32:02 pm »
I think it could bend more on the left from the knot to tip and just a tad in the right inner 1/3
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Re: tiller check
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2018, 09:42:45 am »
Quote from: JWMALONE on January 29, 2018, 08:27:02 pm
Is the right limb stiffer on purpose?
nope, not on purpose- this is just my first brace- need to even things out.
Thanks for the observations..
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2018, 11:15:02 am »
Am I missing a picture? can't see it even at partial draw... brace tells you next to nothing IMO.
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Offline aaron

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 01:34:43 pm »
No partial draw yet. Waiting for it to equalize after steaming. Will even out limbs and draw a bit  tonight.  I disagree that braced profile tells next to nothing.
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Offline wizardgoat

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 01:35:02 pm »
Hey Aaron, nice to see workin on a bow. Still staring at that Osage stave?
It looks like most the bending is happening in the inner 1/3rd of the bow.
Get those mid-outers bending a little more, to my eyes anyways
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Offline Pat B

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 03:28:21 pm »
You shouldn't have braced the bow if you are still waiting on it to equalize after steaming. That alone can change the tiller.
 I'm with Dell, you can't really tell how the tiller in until you hit full draw.
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Re: tiller check
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 07:59:33 pm »
Thanks for the advice, guys. I always do a little tillering to even out the limbs at brace, not neccecary, I guess. I was probably jumping the gun a little bracing it only 24 hours after steaming. Yeah, Ryan, I still have that stave. This one is a "get back in the saddle" bow for me, and I have zero expectations or emotions in it. Sub par wood and I'm hoping for about 35lbs at 29" The heart wood is minimal- should I decrown down another ring? This photo is drawing 16 inches, which is about 20 lbs. The dark spot on the upper limb where it looks kinda hinged is a kink in the wood not apparent from the other side (previous photo was other edge). upper limb naturally deflexed about 1 inch before recurves.
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Offline JWMALONE

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 08:58:45 pm »
I'm new to this so I'm going to practice on yours. Looks way better. I think the top limb is a tad stiffer. I'm working on a bendy hickory 65 inches.
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Offline aaron

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2018, 09:40:22 am »
Thanks for the replies.
another tiller check please.
now pulling 20 lbs at 20 inches.I haven't decided which limb is top yet, string is pretty much in the center of the handle.
this photo has the bbow flipped 180 from the previous drawn profole.
 I was getting a little set in the top limb in this photo, so I have left it alone lately.
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Offline wizardgoat

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 10:26:01 am »
My eyes see that your mid limb and our needs more bending,
both limbs, but the top more than the bottom.
How old is the stave?
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Offline aaron

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Re: tiller check
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2018, 10:37:59 am »
Thanks,ryan. Any chance you want to go to the glass buttes knap in march? Stave is not that old. Cut in winter 2017. Left full round until summer. Reduced to 1 inch thick in oct.
Might not be dry enough. Taking some more set.
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Re: tiller check
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 11:36:42 pm »
Ya, it may need a little more time. Still trying to work out if I can go or not. I’ll be hitting you up if I do!
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Re: tiller check
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 12:22:31 pm »
Quote from: wizardgoat on February 06, 2018, 10:26:01 am
My eyes see that your mid limb and our needs more bending,
both limbs, but the top more than the bottom.
How old is the stave?

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