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Offline Mo_coon-catcher

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Almost paper backed black cherry
« on: January 29, 2018, 12:54:55 am »
Paper backed black cherry 50#@27”, 72” between the nocks, 1 5/8” wide at the handle tapering to 3/8” nocks. The overlays are a shim of leopard wood and bacote. I had about 100 shots through it before doing the finish work. Got another 50 shots after. No shock, smooth drawing, and pretty quick judging by the flatness launching a 600gr arrow at 20 and 25 yards. I was expecting to see 160-170fps. But wen I took it to show cabinetbowguy and get a full draw pic. The first pull I got to 25” and the lower limb broke about 10” from the nock. The paper seems to help it hold together as this one didn’t fully detonate like the others have. I think the rest of my bblack cherry staves will become core lams. I almost had one hold together with good performance.

I’ll have pictures up as soon as I can figure out the correct size again

Kyle

Offline Mo_coon-catcher

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2018, 12:56:51 am »
And the break

Offline stuckinthemud

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2018, 04:18:32 am »
Was a beautiful bow; gutted for you.

Offline bjrogg

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2018, 05:33:01 am »
Sorry for your lose Kyle. R.I.P.
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2018, 07:32:20 am »
Your strung picture on the pig shows hinges in both limbs about where you experienced the break.

Offline Bob Barnes

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 08:30:26 am »
sorry to see it break Kyle, but if the broken ones teach us anything, then it was worth the effort.  You almost had me re-thinking black cherry...  :-K
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Offline Philipp A

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 09:32:31 am »
I feel for you, it looks like you put a lot of work into finishing the bow.

I know the feeling! I had my son shoot one of my bows and it exploded in his hands because he has a considerably longer draw length than me and he is as strong as an ox. I have now made a bow just for him and it is holding up fine. I have also lost a bow where I wanted to increase my shooting distance in the field and I have drawn the bow beyond what I should have. As a result I no longer let others shoot my bows and I am careful to inch my way to the full draw length when tillering and finishing the bow and keep my shooting style the same whether target shooting or shooting in the field.

I am thinking I should make a "guest bow" that you can pull to 30+" and about 40# draw weight so anybody could shoot it without breaking the thing. Also I think I might tiller my bows in the future a couple of inches beyond my regular draw length.

I realize that it is not very social to show others my bow without them being able to take a few shots at my 3 D targets themselves. A guest bow would solve that issue  :)

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 11:48:10 am »
sorry for your lost, nice work on beautiful wood!
What was the reason for that paper backing? Only deco, or ring violation?
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Offline Hawkdancer

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 12:41:45 pm »
Bummer!  That was a pretty bow!
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Offline Springbuck

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2018, 02:59:21 pm »
Oh, darn.  She was beautiful.

Offline Mesophilic

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2018, 03:40:53 pm »
I feel your pain.  Just a couple of weeks ago I broke my 6th attempt at a black cherry longbow.  Had it shooting at 27" draw and was really falling in love.  Took it to 28" one time and it blew.  In hind sight I could feel the descernable breaking point but ignored my gut instinct, could just slap myself.

I have this annoying OCD that I must keep working through failure until I get it right, so I will make a successful cherry bow before I die come hell or high water.
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Offline DuBois

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2018, 08:39:30 pm »
NOw that is a bummer!

Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2018, 08:52:52 pm »
Your strung picture on the pig shows hinges in both limbs about where you experienced the break.

Good eye, I was to concentrated on the paper backing. I do believe paper backing has merit, depends on the type though.
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Offline Hawkdancer

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2018, 11:31:11 pm »
Kyle, it will smoke a hide or some meat pretty well (=) >:D!  BTW, I am at the beginning tillering stage with the hickory stave you sent.  Got a thread going in bows.

Deisel, this whole process is OCD, either that or we are all crazy! >:D
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Offline ohma2

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Re: Almost paper backed black cherry
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 11:39:51 am »
 Im sure its been done but ive never had much luck with black cherry and a self bow.sorry to see that it sure is a pretty wood.