Author Topic: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve  (Read 11181 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Badger

  • Member
  • Posts: 8,124
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2018, 02:18:09 pm »
   Brian had fixed my up with a couple of staves several years ago . I remember the wood being very fast but not reliable in tension. My bows were self bows slight r/d.

Offline vinemaplebows

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,419
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2018, 07:57:49 pm »
   Brian had fixed my up with a couple of staves several years ago . I remember the wood being very fast but not reliable in tension. My bows were self bows slight r/d.

Did either make it Badger? One nick on the back, and pow. Backing is the way to go. It sounds like Marc came to the same conclusion with their Buckthorn.
Debating is an intellectual exchange of differing views...with no winners.

Offline Badger

  • Member
  • Posts: 8,124
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2018, 08:20:09 pm »
   Brian had fixed my up with a couple of staves several years ago . I remember the wood being very fast but not reliable in tension. My bows were self bows slight r/d.



Did either make it Badger? One nick on the back, and pow. Backing is the way to go. It sounds like Marc came to the same conclusion with their Buckthorn.
  Brian, I know one of them I shot for a while and it was a great shooter. But I don't think it made it over a couple hundred shots. I still think it would be ok for someone who uses more limb than I use. I tend to keep bows stiff out of the fades and stiff in the outer limbs. I have backed off of that some in recent years



Offline vinemaplebows

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,419
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2018, 08:49:31 pm »
I generally overbuild mine, but with such a light wood I don't see a issue. Marcs has taken an extreme (for what I thought Buckthorn is capable of) I have wondered about a Maple, Buckthorn, Yew combo. Just for kicks. Sure could conserve hard to obtain clean Yew lumber.
Debating is an intellectual exchange of differing views...with no winners.

Offline Marc St Louis

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 7,877
  • Keep it flexible
    • Marc's Bows and Arrows
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2018, 11:39:40 am »
Beautiful bow. The lines are incredible.
I just don't understand why you are making that cut in shelfs.

I don't use a cut in shelf

Home of heat-treating, Corbeil, On.  Canada

Marc@Ironwoodbowyer.com

Offline simson

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,310
  • stonehill-primitive-bows
    • stonehill-primitive-bows
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2018, 01:30:50 pm »
You're right, Marc. It's my poor English.
I meant the arrow curve, to get more near center.
Do you like to shoot stiffer arrows?
Simon
Bavaria, Germany

Offline Marc St Louis

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 7,877
  • Keep it flexible
    • Marc's Bows and Arrows
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2018, 06:15:09 am »
I like having the choice of shooting a variety of different spined arrows.  Also if by chance I send this bow off to someone then the person that gets it will not have to be so picky about the spine of their arrows, or the type of arrows they use
Home of heat-treating, Corbeil, On.  Canada

Marc@Ironwoodbowyer.com

Offline Eric Garza

  • Member
  • Posts: 589
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2018, 06:35:32 am »
I'm curious why you didn't heat treat the buckthorn?

Offline Marc St Louis

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 7,877
  • Keep it flexible
    • Marc's Bows and Arrows
Re: Maple backed Buckthorn recurve
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2018, 08:02:51 am »
I'm curious why you didn't heat treat the buckthorn?

Buckthorn is a relatively new species for me as it doesn't grow up here and I always make my first few bows without heat-treating just to see what it is capable of, whether it is a new species or a new cut of a species I know.  Heat-treating is coming but not in a self-bow.  It will probably help some but the wood is really quite good on its own, it's much like high grade Yew in compression.
Home of heat-treating, Corbeil, On.  Canada

Marc@Ironwoodbowyer.com