Thanks Pappy! This is my self bow challenge bow I made at the classic. I have not put it down since. The first 8 targets I had missed 4 and the Horse thieves were calling me Old 50%. I got the hang of it after that and like you said I was determined to take a deer with it. I have hunted hard this season and have had a few shots that I didn't take because everything just didn't feel right. Friday on the last day of our regular bow season this little 5 point walked in and I made a good shot on him at 11 yards. The wood arrow and an old bear razor head did the trick, double lunged him and he ran about 100 yards and piled up. It was a great feeling and a proud moment for me, I can't wait to get me another one with it. A huge thanks to Michael Wyatt for the osage stave, Pappy for his insight and helping me lay it out. To Bill Vanderwege and Will Harrison for all their help and advice. And last but not least Davey from New York that helps with the builds at the Self Bow Challenge at the classic. I cant say that I have ever caught his last name but he is a super fine person! I have already started another one and cant wait to get it shooting!