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Offline JonW

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2017, 05:42:01 pm »
6×48 belt sander all the way.

Offline jeffp51

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2017, 05:42:11 pm »
by bending I mean just a couple of inches. I have used rasps, but mostly just the scraper, which I sharpen with a file

Offline Dances with squirrels

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2017, 07:12:49 pm »
After I get it floor tillered, the Farrier's rasp is out. I actually don't use them much anymore, but I still use rasps here and there like the Nicholson #50 or #49, the Bowyer's Edge, cabinet scrapers, double cut files of various sizes and shapes to remove early washboarding and tool marks. I use what's needed to address the task at hand... sometimes switching tools a few times a minute.
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Offline Dances with squirrels

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2017, 07:16:05 pm »
My drawknives may just be my favorite hand tools, but I never use them on a bow's belly or sides.
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2017, 07:33:53 pm »
I often use a full size draw knife on the belly when roughing out. But let's just say I've had a lot of practice.
The key is to vary the angle of attack. A shallow angle will yield nice thin shavings and vice versa.
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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2017, 07:41:35 pm »
Ive seen some experts work a belly with a knife. Its a very impressive hand tool to master.
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Offline scp

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2017, 07:49:56 pm »
If you are in a hurry, you can use a Stanley Surform plane. If the grain is straight enough, you can even use a small block plane. After that nothing beats goose neck carbide scrapers.

Offline willie

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2017, 11:06:42 pm »
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Are you using the rasp to reduce the whole width and keep it flat? You need to use at least a modified facet approach to reduce things a bit faster.

I love my UB10. it is a bit finer than others, but Pats advice about faceting is the way Dean illustrates in his book. and probably what he had in mind when he speced the rasp. His book is well worth reading,IMHO.

Offline Del the cat

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2017, 02:10:46 am »
Depends on the wood...
Spokeshave is good on Yew and whitewoods. but prob' not so good on Osage.
Mind, I don't really floor tiller much, I get 'em up on the tiller early.
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Offline gfugal

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2017, 12:15:28 pm »
what is a modified facet approach (or faceting)?
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Offline SLIMBOB

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2017, 04:20:34 pm »
As I understand it, faceting is taking wood off the belly at an angle from each side of the limb belly, as opposed to taking wood directly from the entire flat plane of the belly.  It  leaves a crown in the center which is the next "facet line" to remove wood from.  It's something I have always done without knowing there was a term used to describe it.  You can remove wood quicker or at least with less muscle involved. 
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Offline PaulN/KS

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2017, 05:03:57 pm »
6×48 belt sander all the way.

Jon is the Jedi Master of the belt sander.  :OK
I like to use a farrier rasp for evening up after the band saw, then a #49 rasp and scraper and at the last I tend to go with scraper and a sanding block with 60 grit to start. Slow, but then I'm not built for speed anyway.  ;)

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2017, 05:17:39 pm »
I'm with Jon on the belt sander!
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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2017, 08:18:02 pm »
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http://www.bowyersedge.com/faceting.html
a technique of light rasping with the finer side of the ub10,  then switching to a cabinet scraper, makes for a nice controlled but granular reduction. 

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Re: Tillering Tools
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2017, 08:43:49 pm »
Angle cut or facet the belly on the bandsaw/Farrier rasp it flat but still overly thick/To the spindle sander to get it really close /A 6" chunk of 2"by4" with 60 grit to flatten every ripple away/To floor tiller/To long string /To short string.A cabinet scraper is used when ever needed too.Before any big bending I round the corners too.
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