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Offline Badger

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Always like the first time
« on: July 13, 2017, 11:45:39 am »
     Working on a bow this morning, I have 2" to go to get to 28". I feel like a kid building my first bow. I call this the death zone. I just can't decide where to remove wood, everyplace looks perfect. I spent two hours getting the last 2'. This is what I love about buildng bows, what else can you do that you get the same thrill out of no matter how many times you do it?

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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2017, 11:53:26 am »
I can only think of one or two...  ::)   >:D
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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2017, 11:56:10 am »
I get that way to, Steve. Ill have the tiller balanced and looking great, but 15-20# too heavy. Its sooo tempting to leave it be, but I know I cant draw it. So I get apprehensive about removing more wood.
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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2017, 12:00:22 pm »
I get that way to, Steve. Ill have the tiller balanced and looking great, but 15-20# too heavy. Its sooo tempting to leave it be, but I know I cant draw it. So I get apprehensive about removing more wood.

  I am always tempted to remove a little more wood close to the fades because it reacts quicker and I can finish up. I really have to force myself to avoid doing that.

Offline JonW

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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2017, 12:46:56 pm »
I get that way to, Steve. Ill have the tiller balanced and looking great, but 15-20# too heavy. Its sooo tempting to leave it be, but I know I cant draw it. So I get apprehensive about removing more wood.

This is my love/hate relationship of building bows for others.

Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2017, 03:36:26 pm »
I am not a patient person, so that last two inches is a challenge to me,, lightly scrape and sand the whole thing and hope the bow gods are with me,, sometimes it takes me days to get it,, cause I get tired of patiently sanding,, (--)

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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2017, 04:50:14 pm »
I find that a rasp or a few scrapes on the fades helps get over the hump since a little movement there is magnified many times over at the tips.

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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2017, 04:57:17 pm »
Yes it's fun getting to that point but it's gotta be done.
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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2017, 06:14:09 pm »
I usually trick myself into not hurrying the last couple inches. I place pencil marks across the full length of each limb and then remove them with a scraper or by sanding. I can see the progress by removing the lines with very little change to tiller and draw weight. You might say I sneak the final 2 inches of draw length out of the bow. And hope I hit the draw weight I want. Loads of fun.

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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2017, 09:07:20 pm »
I am not a patient person, so that last two inches is a challenge to me,, lightly scrape and sand the whole thing and hope the bow gods are with me,, sometimes it takes me days to get it,, cause I get tired of patiently sanding,, (--)

+1  ;)
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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2017, 09:15:11 pm »
Yes that final ,final is not so much a challenge as the fact that it bends so even but just to heavy. If they hit between 40- 50 and not a custom I'm done. Arvin
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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2017, 10:02:27 pm »
I gotta say, I'm still a bit apprehensive around the entire tillering process cause I know I can destroy a lot of good work in planning and ruin a piece of wood real quick. It's fun though and I do feel like I am just a new comer to learning it with different profiles and all.
I find that a rasp or a few scrapes on the fades helps get over the hump since a little movement there is magnified many times over at the tips.
One thing I have messed up on was getting a bow too close to weight and realizing I still had rasp tool marks to get down to and before long I was way beyond help. Probably sounds simple to many of  you but cleaning up all the tool marks off the edges and going to a scraper a little earlier in the process has been real helpful and only took me a dozen or more bow fails to figure it out  )P(

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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2017, 10:18:47 pm »
  This bow I was working on this morning was the fifth in a series of Elbs I have been building. I was going for zero set and I made it. The other 4 came out good but had just a whisper of set. I actually went 1" over just for security.

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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2017, 02:38:04 am »
I gotta say, I'm still a bit apprehensive around the entire tillering process cause I know I can destroy a lot of good work in planning and ruin a piece of wood real quick. It's fun though and I do feel like I am just a new comer to learning it with different profiles and all.
I find that a rasp or a few scrapes on the fades helps get over the hump since a little movement there is magnified many times over at the tips.
One thing I have messed up on was getting a bow too close to weight and realizing I still had rasp tool marks to get down to and before long I was way beyond help. Probably sounds simple to many of  you but cleaning up all the tool marks off the edges and going to a scraper a little earlier in the process has been real helpful and only took me a dozen or more bow fails to figure it out  )P(
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Re: Always like the first time
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2017, 03:42:10 am »
Oh that feeling :BB it's a part of the process that makes us bowyer geeks do it over and over again. Feels a bit like learning a difficult trick on a skateboard and after that you just do that trick all the time ( even after 30 years, still do some I learned when I was 14 ;D )