Bow making video

[Badger]

      My son wants to help me with a bow making video. There are already some excellent videos on bow making that I don't feel I could really add anything to so I decided I would do one on no set tillering and bow mass. Maybe a few different style bows in a few videos. I also thought I would throw in a few little things I do that might be of some use. The only thing we are disagreeing on is that he is telling me he needs to edit down to about 5 min?? I was thinking more like 20 min maybe even 30 min. Any thoughts on this? Anything else anyone would like to see included in a video.

[osage outlaw]

I would like to see your no set tillering.  How will the video be available?

[Pat B]

I'd like to see it too, Steve. I think the 20 to 30 minute would be best to be able to get the info across. Five minutes is just a tease.   

[upstatenybowyer]

I'd love to see this. As for how long it should be, it depends on your targeted audience. If it's mostly for folks who have made a successful bow or two and would now like to improve their craft by reducing set and understanding the mass principle 5-10 minutes might be enough. If it's for a true beginner there'd have to be a whole lot more time.

Cool idea doing something like this with your son. I hope it works out well for the both of you!

[Badger]

 I was just going to make it a you tube video. He suggested that he break the video up into a few short videos on different subjects. I am not really concerned with the amount of views as much as getting the information across more completely. I imagine we will end up compromising at 15 min or so. I have a few little gadgets I use I want to squeeze in. I haven't been making many bows the last few years and am kind of thinking about it like a goodbye type send off.

[BowEd]

I'd for one would like to see it too.

[penderbender]

I would also He is it for sure. Cheers- Brendan

[Stick Bender]

I would also love to see it Steve !

[Pappy]

I would like to see it also, as for the goodbye send off we don't want to hear that.
 Pappy

[Del the cat]

Sounds good. I'd agree that editing is key, and best to edit into short digestible chunks.
IMO Most common editing fault is an over long intro' and too much dead time.
Watch a few vids from other people and pick out the mistakes.
One problem is that the subtleties we are used to looking at are hard to see or film.
No set tillering would be a great topic... I'd think the mass thing could get heavy... (I've never got into it).
Whether you do it as short individual vids or a sort of chapters, depends on how it will be published... Youtube? DVD?
Gotta remember that most people have a short atten.... oooh look a squirrel....
Del
PS Good luck, can't wait to see the rushes

[rps3]

I would watch it. I've watched long videos that kept my interest and short ones where I wished they would hurry up and get to the point. That will be the challenge. I say shoot it first with as much info as you can, and see what you end up with.

[PEARL DRUMS]

5 minutes!?!? You better talk fast Steve!

[Badger]

   Pappy, not a good bye in the sense that I am going away but more in the sense that I have kind of gone over the peak where I am not really learning much anymore and starting to get rusty at what I do know. I actually thought of a few more things that I thought might be worth passing on. Theory is great but even better when you can demonstrate it. One of the most interesting things I have come across in bow building is the concept of how many ways the amount of working limb can affect design. I thought it might be cool to build some slightly extreme designs just to demonstrate the working limb length concept and theory. Build two bows side by side both with the same unbraced profile but using different amounts of working limb.

   One thing I had planned to do when I retired was to go around the country and hook up and build bows with guys from the PA site here and video the builds. My girlfriend was diagnosed with cancer about the same time I retired so it put all the plans on hold. She is doing pretty well now so I might be able to do a scaled down version of that. I have always thought it was better to do builds with someone that asks questions as you build, it forces me to do a better job of explaining things.

[Limbit]

No set tillering! I keep reading about it, but it is a bit abstract. Would rather see it done in action.

[bjrogg]

Badger when I first got into all of this stuff I watched a lot of YouTube. I think it's great. Most videos are good to give you the basics. I would really be interested in watching what your proposing. I think probably would be best if YouTube video that you make a series of videos. Each could have a topic you could concentrate on. If you felt you needed more time on a topic you could still make another in its series. I agree with Del on the attention oh a bunny rabbit. I do think there is room in the bow making videos for more advanced techniques and methods. Keep us updated
Bjrogg