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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Ink coming off rawhide
« on: April 13, 2017, 06:52:11 pm »
Hello all,

I've been having a heck of a time with a design drawn with sharpie over a rawhide back. I usually finish with tung oil, but when I apply it the sharpie comes off. I tried an clear acrylic spray protectant and that took the sharpie completely off.  >:( Anyone know of a way to waterproof over rawhide without removing black sharpie in the process? I'll be forever in your debt.

Many thanks!
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 07:02:55 pm »
I do t know about rawhide, but I've had that problem with ink on wood before if I do t let the ink cure before I put finish on it. I usually wait 24 hours minimum. Then I put a gently applied coat so I don't run the chance of smearing the ink. With India ink I wait 2 days to be on the safe side.

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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 07:03:35 pm »
Use India ink. Sharpie's have a carrier that isn't compatible with some finishes. You can draw with India ink over the rawhide and ass just about any finish over it. Sharpie's also fade in sunlight. That's why I stopped using them.
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2017, 08:51:22 pm »
The problem is the tung oil. Get some shellac and when you redraw the design and it is dry spray a couple coats of the shellac on it when that it dry you can put whatever finish you want on it
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 09:23:44 pm »
Great. Thanks as always for shining some light in the darkness. Don't know what I'd do without PA!
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 09:59:14 pm »
Shellac has alcohol for a carrier and I think it will make the Sharpie bleed. I write over dried shellac then cover the writing with Tru-Oil. You could cover with water based poly then finish the bow with whatever you wish. India ink is easier.   ;D
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 11:30:07 pm »
Quote from: Pat B on April 13, 2017, 09:59:14 pm
Shellac has alcohol for a carrier and I think it will make the Sharpie bleed. I write over dried shellac then cover the writing with Tru-Oil. You could cover with water based poly then finish the bow with whatever you wish. India ink is easier.   ;D
Thats what i have been using for a while Pat, everything else made sharpies run, i dont use sharpies anymore rhough, water base sealer will not make it bleed
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 11:31:15 pm »
As a side note the sharpies will fade, try a paint pen instead
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 02:30:56 am »
Simple...use Indian ink :) and shellac as a sealer.
Sharpies fade and look terrible after a few years
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 09:43:55 am »
Ditto on repeated advice.India ink will be a true black or white and stay.Fiebings leather dye if given time to dry will work ok too putting finish on later I've found.
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 02:12:55 pm »
They make a sharpie with india ink. I write on the bow and let it set a few minutes then put a light coat of Poly on and let that dry. Then I can spray as many coats as I want without any problems.
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2017, 02:34:16 pm »
Thanks Mullet, I had no idea they made an India ink sharpie. I tried an India ink pen first, but it wouldn't draw on the rawhide. That's why I resorted to the regular sharpie. I probably just bought the wrong type of pen. I'll look for that one next time I'm at the art store.  ;)
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Re: Ink coming off rawhide
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2017, 04:37:37 pm »
Look for the Ultra Fine. Also, Hobby Lobby has a lot of different pens that work real good. I bought them in copper, gold and silver ink.
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