Gentleman, as always, your insight is priceless. BJ, glad to know I'm not alone in pondering this conundrum. Del, what you say makes a ton of sense. Either way, I'll eventually have to learn the insides and outs of these things. Even if I buy new, I'll eventually have to replace parts and such. So why not look for an old quality machine and do all the learning up front? Hard to argue with that. Of course, part of me likes the idea of buying a new quality machine like a Grizzly and learning as I go. Man, this is a tough decision!