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Offline RedSpectre

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I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« on: March 07, 2017, 12:48:47 pm »
So I don't even know where to begin but, I want to get into the world of making my own bows.  It's easy and probably much safer to up and buy one but as an artist, there's something to be said about using things you've made yourself.

Anyway, a lot of you guys seem really knowledgeable about this sort of stuff so I figured Id ask here.

The idea is to make a takedown style riser, wooden, leaning toward ilf style.
I've heard a lot of things about impregnated wood from it being virtually moisture and water proof to it being brittle and running the risk of cracking. 

Id just like any and all input on your experiences on which woods and general material combinations are best suited for bow risers, if impregnated woods are the way to go, and what processes are good for ensuring a stable and long lasting riser.

Please excuse the fact that I am a complete newbie at this and I thank you for your help.

Limb tuts are also welcome.
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 01:09:47 pm »
This reminds of the story of the motorist in Ireland who stops to ask the way.. the pedestrian scratches his chin and says:-
"Ah, to be sure, if I were you I wouldn't start from here" :)
Seems to me you are wanting to start from the wrong place...
Forget ILF, takedowns, impregnated stuff.
Get back to basics, what is a bow for? How has mankind managed to make 'em for millenia?
How did you make a bow as a kid? Just do the same but using the skills and knowledge you have accumulated over the years... don't confuse complexity with quality or performance.
Keep it simple.
The clue is in the forum title...  ;)
If that sounds too negative, don't despair, there is plenty of time to make fancy stuff once you have mastered the basics, say a 40# 62" long simple board bow or bow from a nice clean stave.
We learn from our mistakes and a complicated design will have complicated mistakes which may be beyond your understanding.
The key thing is training your eye to see the simple even curve of a bow. Your artists eye may pick it up quickly>
Good luck.
Del
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 01:10:57 pm »
I made an I-beam riser using purple heart and goncola alvas. Both are dense, heavy woods. I think a TD riser is a great use for such woods. They hold the inserts tightly in place and allow for a more slim profile due to their strength.
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 01:15:08 pm »
Heck Pearlie, you're just encouraging his foolishness  ;) >:D
That's no beginners bow! I think that's Phd level  :)
Del
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Offline Parnell

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 01:27:52 pm »
Go like this... :BB
Hey everybody look!  I used one of the new emoticons!!!

My advice...background yourself.  Where are you?  Find a mentor.  Start with a good stave and someone to show you hands on what to do.  Design an overbuilt forgiving flatbow.  Go to the TN Classic or one of the bow building events nearest you this year.  Meet people - see how they do what they do.  Start from the beginning.  Go from there.

Welcome to PA, hope you enjoy the ride.
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Offline PatM

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2017, 01:31:15 pm »
I'm curious why the detail of impregnated wood being necessary in any way? I mean I know the benefits but why did this leap out as the first concern in the whole project?

 Reminds me of people who have never made a bow already being concerned that sinew needs to be kept dry.
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2017, 01:34:52 pm »
What the heck is impregnated wood, and do I even want to know?  ???
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Offline PatM

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2017, 01:38:53 pm »
Pressure treated with resin.
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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2017, 01:42:08 pm »
Love that profile Pearly...man that is sweet...
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2017, 01:44:22 pm »
Quote from: PatM on March 07, 2017, 01:38:53 pm
Pressure treated with resin.

Whew!  :laugh:
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2017, 01:48:32 pm »
Actionwood is another name. While it is strong and consistent, I don't thinks it is pretty in the least. It all looks the same from bow to bow to bow.
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Offline DC

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2017, 01:49:36 pm »
Quote from: upstatenybowyer on March 07, 2017, 01:44:22 pm
Quote from: PatM on March 07, 2017, 01:38:53 pm
Pressure treated with resin.

Whew!  :laugh:

Funny! Once it sunk in. Talk about being into a hobby.
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2017, 01:59:48 pm »
DC, I knew I could count on you to take it even one step further.  ;D ;D ;D
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Offline bubby

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2017, 02:07:16 pm »
Most commonly called stabilized wood most prevalent in knife handles :KN
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Offline bjrogg

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Re: I Call Upon This Community For All The Favors
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2017, 03:24:26 pm »
Welcome to PA RedSpectre,not trying to talk you out of anything but I would tend to agree with Del. Very few first attempts at bows are really good let alone perfect. Many break or under perform. Having  said that I completely understand your wanting to build your own bow. I also want to say when you shoot your bow for the first time it feels so great you won't want to put it down. But please do long enough to at least build another and another and you will keep learning and building better bows. Everyone here is wants you to succeed. Good Luck
Bjrogg
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