I use bevel down. I don't have any trouble chasin a ring with the long drawknife, I just don't like my hands out so far apart and wanted to try a a smaller blade where I feel like I have more control. The large drawknife works awesome for Osage where the blade just find the ring, but with yew, it doesn't take much to rip through a couple rings. The scraper works great for getting through the last couple. rings. Maybe my technique is just weird. I tear down close to where I want to be, go back and get close to the ring I want, using the large drawknife, then to the last ring with the scraper. I was just looking for something smaller for the middle step.