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Offline DC

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Arrow pass
« on: January 31, 2017, 12:32:33 pm »
When you are making a bow with no shelf do you still shape the area? Like dip it in a bit for more center shot. Or do you have both sides symmetrical? I dip mine in a bit and shape it so the arrow rests on the forward edge of the bow. Just curious how others do it.

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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 12:36:50 pm »
I usually go in a little more on the arrow pass side.
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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2017, 12:42:29 pm »
It works out all kinds of ways.  Usually, I just go narrow at the upper end of the grip and glue on a leather side plate or a tiny slim rest with the handle wrap.  But, I've been known to "fudge" it to one side when establishing width flares, or tilting the handle like 3 degrees toward diagonal, if I feel like it and have plenty of wood.

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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 12:48:19 pm »
I dish mine out on the arrow pass side and build up a shelf with leather or use a floppy rest.  Here lately I've been carving in a shelf and I really like how it looks and shoots. 
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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2017, 02:56:23 pm »
Usually I have one side of the stave a bit curved the way the grain runs and I use that side of the handle for the arrow to pass if that makes sense to you the way I explained it. Even if I have a touch of string misalignment at the handle towards the arrow pass side, I don't mind as long as it centres properly on the rest of the stave.

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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2017, 03:44:16 pm »
Arrow pass clearance and cutouts, a little to a lot, ONLY change which arrows shoot best out of your bow. They do NOT improve consistency unless you are shooting mixed spined arrows.

I never make the arrow pass narrower than the handle. It has never created an issue. I  find  out which arrows shoot well out of the  bow and that's what I shoot.

With this takedown, the arrow passes on the metal above the leather, so I guess the pass is narrower by the thickness of the leather, but it's 1-1/8" wide there.
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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2017, 04:03:57 pm »
I would only suggest you stay fairly consistent from bow to bow in regards to how far off center you are i.e. grip width, that way you can shoot various bows where you are looking. I make mine all the same, I simply glue a rest on or I shoot off knuckle. The handle width remains either way.
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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2017, 07:23:58 pm »
I try to make the pass 1/2" from center on all my bows. Since most of them are within #5 of each other I can use the same arrows.

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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2017, 03:33:40 am »
I cut my shelf in to string and leave what everyone else adds. Arvin
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2017, 04:05:40 am »
Make your bow and get it shooting. Then have a look where the mark is that the passage of the arrows has left. Remove material until that mark is in the center (front to back) of the handle. I rarely see this talked about.
As Asharrow says centershot or not doesn't make any difference to consistency/accuracy other than which arrows you have to use.

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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2017, 04:44:08 am »
I dish it is some on the arrows pass side, and as Pearl said I try to do all my bows about the same, so my cant can stay consistent from bow to bow when I am shooting them.  :)
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Offline DC

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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2017, 11:04:45 am »
Make your bow and get it shooting. Then have a look where the mark is that the passage of the arrows has left. Remove material until that mark is in the center (front to back) of the handle. I rarely see this talked about.
As Asharrow says centershot or not doesn't make any difference to consistency/accuracy other than which arrows you have to use.

I read in TBB4, I think, that the contact point should be as far forward as you can. Minimising the arrow angle I think. Why do you say middle as opposed to forward. It's probably a niggley point anyway :D

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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 01:17:31 pm »
Make your bow and get it shooting. Then have a look where the mark is that the passage of the arrows has left. Remove material until that mark is in the center (front to back) of the handle. I rarely see this talked about.
As Asharrow says centershot or not doesn't make any difference to consistency/accuracy other than which arrows you have to use.
+1.Good subject.It's the way I make my arrow passes too.I want the least amount of obstruction or resistance for my arrow I can get.Usually only 1/16" area or less that the arrow rides on.Laying an arrow at brace on there to check it.Fronts of the fletching tapered smooth too.1 reason why I shoot off the knuckle too.
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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 01:26:43 pm »
I was surprised when I stopped using a shelf. I expected to get wacked in the hand but I feel nothing. I found that if I lower the nock point until I can feel the arrow go by and then raise it a touch everything seems to work.

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Re: Arrow pass
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2017, 02:03:02 pm »
Another option besides a shelf is offset limbs. I've been intentionally offsetting my limbs on my last two bows, and working on the 3rd now. Essentially, I steam the handle and bend it towards the side that will be the arrow pass which brings the string alignment much closer to center shot. I don't go all the way to center shot, but it can't be much more than 1/4'' off. Like Asharrow said, it only significantly improves your consistency with mixed spine arrows. I've been able to get good flight out of everything from 60-75# spine with my favorite 74# bow. It's not a noticeable improvement over a bow that has a centered string alignment and properly matched arrows.. but I don't like to spend a bunch of time closely matching my arrows because I lose and break too many. It's a sensible adjustment for me. With the offset limbs I've just been focusing on matching sets of arrows to within 10 grains weight or so, and not focusing too much on spine.
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