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Offline Knoll

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Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« on: October 19, 2016, 09:35:08 pm »
Ok fellas, need input, please.

Recently finished a bow and am in process of making some arrows for it.
Set nock height at 3/8". Bareshaft is flying straight, but significantly nock high.
Set nock height at 1/4". Bareshaft indicating weak spine, but nock is level.

When bareshaft testing, should I pay any attention to nock high/level/low?
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2016, 10:09:49 pm »
Mike.....my experience is to have the nock a little high, pay more attention to the nock right or left.  I have found that when the nock is a bit high and straight ...no left or right... I fletch the arrow and it will fly like a dart....
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2016, 10:26:29 pm »
Will put some feathers on it and see what it does.
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 07:36:24 am »
I agree with Bill, left to right is far more important.   But if you say that the nock is significantly high, then you need to make adjustments to lower that nock.  If that arrows is telling you that it is too weak at that point, then try trimming a half inch or so off the point end, or find a lighter point.
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2016, 08:30:37 am »
I've never really been that convinced of the value of bare shaft testing.
Do you check out the handling of your car by trying it without the tyres? ::)  >:D
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2016, 09:34:30 am »
I also look at left and right, they usually hit knock high, now if it is really bad knock I may adjust it a bit but just a little I go with that. We're not talking about cars Del, we are talking about arrows, now an air plans with out wings might be another matter. ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2016, 10:02:45 am »
And it's spelled tires Del.   ;)
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2016, 10:09:53 am »
Quote from: Del the cat on October 20, 2016, 08:30:37 am
I've never really been that convinced of the value of bare shaft testing.
Do you check out the handling of your car by trying it without the tyres? ::)  >:D
Del

To adapt that analogy a little, I would think of bare shaft testing more like balancing your tires, yes it's possible to test the tires on the car, but you would only find big obvious problems, whereas if you test the tire on a balancing machine it's much easier to detect smaller issues.
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2016, 10:45:05 am »
Quote from: Urufu_Shinjiro on October 20, 2016, 10:09:53 am
Quote from: Del the cat on October 20, 2016, 08:30:37 am
I've never really been that convinced of the value of bare shaft testing.
Do you check out the handling of your car by trying it without the tyres? ::)  >:D
Del

To adapt that analogy a little, I would think of bare shaft testing more like balancing your tires, yes it's possible to test the tires on the car, but you would only find big obvious problems, whereas if you test the tire on a balancing machine it's much easier to detect smaller issues.
Yeah, but I've never seen tires balanced on a machine! Only the wheel and tyre assembled together and that's my point.
... forget I ever mentioned it... ::) (wanders off in search of a cup of tea, seein as how you're all gangin' up on me  ;) "Tires" indeed... never heard of such a thing ::))
Del
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2016, 11:03:11 am »
Quote from: Aaron H (Falcon) on October 20, 2016, 10:02:45 am
And it's spelled tires Del.   ;)

I think we may be forgetting that we speak "English". Del would be the one who IS English! >:D
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2016, 11:27:59 am »
I'm surprised Del...If you want to flight shoot you gotta get those arrows to fly right for distance.Same way with the arrow sticking into the target.Straight line is the best for the best penetration.
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2016, 11:49:35 am »
Quote from: Beadman on October 20, 2016, 11:27:59 am
I'm surprised Del...If you want to flight shoot you gotta get those arrows to fly right for distance.Same way with the arrow sticking into the target.Straight line is the best for the best penetration.
Yeah I know that. This isn't the flight shooting forum.
I thought this was Hunting... I'd have thought a broadhead would have a big influence on the flight of an arrow and that the fletchings were an essential integral part of the arrow.
Mind I don't actually hunt (not allowed in UK) I don't shoot broadheads. So I'll fess up.... I don't know what I'm talking about, so I won't say any more on this topic.  :-[
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2016, 12:09:13 pm »
Well believe it and I do or not there is an overlapping gray area between flight shooting and hunting when it comes to arrow flight.The best flying arrows should be used for hunting as well as flight shooting.Sorry to ruffle your feathers.
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2016, 12:24:42 pm »
Quote from: Beadman on October 20, 2016, 12:09:13 pm
Well believe it and I do or not there is an overlapping gray area between flight shooting and hunting when it comes to arrow flight.The best flying arrows should be used for hunting as well as flight shooting.Sorry to ruffle your feathers.
My feathers are fine ta' we all need a slap down now and again to stop us talking BS or getting our heads wedged up our backsides..
No prob'  :)
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Re: Bareshaft testing and nock height - need input
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2016, 12:32:26 pm »
Del, I hunt and hunt only. Never bare shaft tuned a bow. I grab 29" long 45-50 and 50-55 arrows I have around, one or the other always fly great from 45-55 bows. 
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