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Offline Marc St Louis

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« on: October 15, 2016, 02:01:24 pm »
Someone who has been selected to appear on the reality show Alone contacted me recently.  As he said, "I have one slot left to fill and it was either a shovel or a bow", he went with a bow.  He wanted to know what would work, seems like Vancouver Island is where they film this show.  I told him something simple using a wood that resists moisture, I gave him my reasons which are irrelevant here.  The species I suggested, all from NA, were Yew, Osage and ERC, in that order and the design is one I have found to be quite effective, mostly native inspired.  He has tentatively picked Yew but it did get me to thinking about the ERC and how it would behave with the design I picked.  It turns out that it does quite well.

The bow is made from 3/8" ERC boards, I think they are used mostly for chests.  Being a board they had to be backed and I used Maple for that. I sort of figured that being only 3/8" think that I would need a slightly thicker backing to get the draw weight up a bit so the backing is just over 1/8" think at the center.  I also glued in a thin power lam extending past the handle area.  The boards were only 4' long so I cut 1 in half then used a tapered finger joint to splice the 2 pieces together.  The small recurves were steam bent and the reflex glued in.  Final specs are 61" long overall with 1 1/2" wide limbs.  The draw weight ended up at 47# @ 28", I was hoping for over 50# but I would have needed to make the bow shorter for that of added more thickness to the inner limbs, extending the power lam might have done it.  I glued in 5" of reflex and it kept close to 4" of that, so far.  I shot it a few times and for a 47# bow it spits out 550 grain arrows at an impressive speed.  The humidity in my shop while I was making the bow stayed at around 70%, I'm sure that Vancouver Island has that beat.  Here are some pics

The first pic is the backing being glued down and after removal from the form.






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Re: ERC Board Bow
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 02:08:32 pm »
That's a beauty Marc, I always like your bows. I'm about a 100 miles south of where they film and this morning the humidity is 94% and the temp is 50 F. Tell him to wax it a lot ;D

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Re: ERC Board Bow
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2016, 02:24:30 pm »
Man, id love to be on that show. Nice bow Marc. So, maple is an appropriate backing for cedar. If thats the case, is bamboo too much? Did you trap the back, the belly, or are they same width?
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2016, 02:38:51 pm »
I like the shape of that. Nice bow! Cheers- Brendan

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Re: ERC Board Bow
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 02:51:25 pm »
Marc that is really a text book bend there. You gotta be getting everything out of that one with that bend beautiful. Of the shows I watch I kinda like that one they have some pretty good people on there and not all the drama like the format sure hope he gets something with it. I think I'd rig it up for fishing if I was taking it there I'll be watching for it
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 03:03:59 pm »
Just sat down here to put some pictures on and here's the bow wood from you that I'm making too at the moment.....lol.Sweet looking bend on that bow Marc.You got a good amount of poundage out of that width and thickness.I've always wondered and thought red cedar might do ok in high humidity.Like yew in that regard.I've watched that Alone program quite a bit myself.I think the record is something like 70 to 80 days??
Now just so has it I'm tillering another ERC too.....lol.I've got some pictures to put up with some questions.I'm just about to my draw weight with it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 03:48:27 pm »
Great retention of your reflex also.I bet it does shoot pretty decent.
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Re: ERC Board Bow
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2016, 04:53:09 pm »
Cool bow, really slim profile!

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2016, 05:32:49 pm »
I like that, Marc. ERC gets a bad rap. The one thing I learned with staves is the sapwood is better and more stable, and when on the Tiller tree, when it feels like it wants to stop bending, you better stop.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2016, 08:50:19 pm »
Thanks guys
Well this is NOT the bow he will be taking, he wants Yew.

Maple and ERC work well together, both the Maple backing and the Cedar are the same width.  I don't think I would use Bamboo on ERC.

The board from the package was a good one.  I had to orient it a bit to avoid the odd larger knots but besides that it was pretty clean. 

I could have made the bow a bit shorter, that would have brought the draw weight to 50#.  As it was I didn't need to do any scraping on the inner limbs, just some sanding to get rid of tool marks
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2016, 11:14:38 pm »
Marc, Bamboo is a good backing for cedar. My Grandson's Dad has one that I gave him over ten years ago that he still shoots. Brian Melton made it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2016, 11:19:29 pm »
Beautiful!!
Marc, Bamboo is a good backing for cedar. My Grandson's Dad has one that I gave him over ten years ago that he still shoots. Brian Melton made it.
So it should be rather thin? Maybe 10% of the total thickness?

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2016, 02:57:55 am »
Nice!  I haven't worked with a wood that is lighter in hand than ERC.  Pretty, too.
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Re: ERC Board Bow
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2016, 09:41:59 am »
I hear this season will be in patagonia.

Last fall the one lady with all the fish was in one of the cublocks I engineered.

Beauty bow however.

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2016, 10:00:10 am »
I don't believe he will be in this coming season

Good to know Eddie.  I still wouldn't use it, mostly because for me Bamboo is hard to get and I have an abundance of Maple which works quite well
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