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Offline Joec123able

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Re: Osage Ring Thickness
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2016, 10:04:15 pm »
Total bull crap. I guarantee you make two exact same bows, one from thin ringed and one from thick, there would be next to no difference. Anyone who don't want their thick ringed Osage, I will gladly take it lol.
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Offline sleek

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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2016, 10:19:21 pm »
I will put you on my trade with list then. But you gadda swap me thin ring stuff.
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Offline SLIMBOB

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Re: Osage Ring Thickness
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2016, 10:35:10 pm »
I don't know joe....I see some pretty accomplished guys saying they prefer thin ringed Osage. You saying that ring configuration has no impact? None?
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Offline Joec123able

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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2016, 10:39:54 pm »
I don't know joe....I see some pretty accomplished guys saying they prefer thin ringed Osage. You saying that ring configuration has no impact? None?

I wouldn't say it has absolutely no effect, I think it could have a very minor effect on the performance but I personally wouldn't bet on it having any huge jump in performance.
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Offline Joec123able

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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2016, 10:42:25 pm »
I will put you on my trade with list then. But you gadda swap me thin ring stuff.

Hey I don't discriminate I like thin or thick rings haha.  8)
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Osage Ring Thickness
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2016, 11:01:44 pm »
It should make you a fine bow. Don't worry. Jawge
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2016, 11:06:14 pm »
Ok. That's backiNg way off from "total bull crap". 
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Offline Joec123able

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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2016, 11:17:12 pm »
Ok. That's backiNg way off from "total bull crap".

Like i said, there would probably be "next to no" difference. I was just stating my opinion on the subject, then again I'm a nobody with an opinion worth nothing haha, don't take me serious.
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Offline Eric Garza

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Re: Osage Ring Thickness
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2016, 10:32:28 am »
I'm with others in that while I wouldn't necessarily shun a thick-ringed stave, they're never my preference. With osage, as with all other woods, I always prefer thin ringed staves provided the early-to-late ratio strongly favors late wood. If I had a stave like the one you showed, I'd do what sleek does and put it on the trade blanket. I have two osage staves with fairly thicks rings on the trade blanket as we speak, in fact.

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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2016, 12:03:37 pm »
Joe...I was fine with you jumping out there with your opinion.  "Total bull crap, and I guarantee"...I was just hoping you'd make your case.  Instead you walked it way back.  I've had my biases about this stuff over the years, and some of those things I believed to be true 10 or 20 years ago, I now know that I was wrong then. I'm wrong about something I believe right now.  No shame in discovering your wrong about something and getting right with it. 
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Offline sleek

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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2016, 12:22:14 pm »
I'm wrong about something I believe right now. 

"But I may be mistaken about that."
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Offline Joec123able

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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2016, 12:38:30 pm »
Joe...I was fine with you jumping out there with your opinion.  "Total bull crap, and I guarantee"...I was just hoping you'd make your case.  Instead you walked it way back.  I've had my biases about this stuff over the years, and some of those things I believed to be true 10 or 20 years ago, I now know that I was wrong then. I'm wrong about something I believe right now.  No shame in discovering your wrong about something and getting right with it.

Hey, neither one of us is wrong because neither of us actually has a scientific factual case about this.
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Osage Ring Thickness
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2016, 01:09:20 pm »
I like thin ringed stuff. I believe they hold heated shaping a bit better and maybe they are bit more resilient, like white wood saplings often are. Id say a good share of the thick ring fans cant chase a ring to save their draw knife, hence the love affair. Aint nothing wrong with that either. To each their own.
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Offline SLIMBOB

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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2016, 01:15:21 pm »
True enough, but I didn't throw down a guarantee.  You did.  I was just hoping you would back up your argument with something.  Scientific or not.  Here....

#1  about 4 rings per inch.
#2  about 15 rings per inch.   

I made bows from both, and I like them both.  Love them both.  But they are different bows.  The thinner ringed bow having lower mass, took less set and shoots at a higher draw weight than the thick ringed bow.

I have not run either thru a chrono, but I know what I like.  Low set, low mass, hunting weight bows.  3 things that are sometimes difficult for me to achieve together.  The thinner ringed stuff has done that for me more often than the thick.
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2016, 01:23:42 pm »
I agree with that PEARL.  All of it really.  The thick ringed stuff is much easier to work.  That is why I sought it out early on.  The thin ringed Osage just holds up better over time, for me anyway.  And lastly, it is a matter of what you like more than anything else.
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