Ok,
Thanks fellas.
Mitch and Weylin, I am seeing it more now where you 2 are looking and I think after a little there it will be right on.
Weylin, I am trying to improve on going with fingers for feel of thickness and taper and it seems to be very helpful. I'm not using a tiller tree on the last few but going with it in hand and mirror. I'll post progress as I get it.