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Offline Knotty

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Hide Glue question!
« on: June 17, 2016, 03:05:48 pm »
Hey guys, quick question, I've seen many people in the US use Knoxx Gelatine (or something like that) as a quick hide glue solution..

Since I live in Brazil I was wondering if ANY flavorless gelatine is made with the same ingredient?

I need it to sinew back a bow 😊
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2016, 03:43:10 pm »
Yes, any brand of unflavored and unsweetened gelatin is hide glue. 
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Offline le0n

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2016, 03:55:11 pm »
should all be the same ingredient, which is rendered from: connective tissue, cartilage, ears, bones, noses, tendons, skin, tails, marrow, hooves, knuckles, horns and any other gelatinous parts of the animal that you normally don't eat.

you know; the same ingredients that go into SPAM:

Offline DC

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2016, 03:57:17 pm »
I think if more people realised what from and how gelatin was made Jello's stock would hit the basement.

Offline Knotty

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2016, 04:01:29 pm »
Great! Thanks for the help guys! Appreciate it.
~Isaia

Offline Strichev

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2016, 04:27:04 pm »
A few years back (a decade, I think) a widespread rumor about gelatinous candy circulated my country. Supposedly it was made from bones of captured stray dogs. Now, I never saw that many stray dogs around (hardly any), but that doesn't disprove the rumor. Nowadays the rumor is that all the dogs are consumed by Chinese restaurants and such.  Along with ducks. And still I see almost no stray dogs around.


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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2016, 04:40:38 pm »
More Spam please gotta love that stuff when it's hot
Out of the frying pan who cares what's in it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2016, 04:39:20 am »
More Spam please gotta love that stuff when it's hot
Out of the frying pan who cares what's in it.

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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2016, 03:48:30 pm »
More Spam please gotta love that stuff when it's hot
Out of the frying pan who cares what's in it.

Dredge lightly in corn starch before frying and it forms a crisp crust! 
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Offline Montanaoutdoors

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2016, 10:32:45 am »
If you have sinew scraps you can make your own hide glue as well, the Knox and similar products are usually made from hoofs if I understand correctly, it works but isn't the best quality compared to sinew scraps that are cleaned

Offline loon

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2016, 01:39:00 pm »
From what I've heard, glue from rawhide should be better than Knox glue.
Even better would be fish bladder glue... was it cooked at 145F for 10 hours or something? apparently it gels slower

Knox should be just fine for everything but hornbows though
who knows? I don't. maybe it's good for hornbows
« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 02:36:35 pm by loon »

Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2016, 02:07:19 pm »
Knox makes a fine glue.  I've had great results using it.  I've made glue from sinew scraps also.  They both work just fine.
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Offline lebhuntfish

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2016, 02:29:58 pm »
Exactly what Osage outlaw said.

If I remember correctly,  TBB3 has a chart showing the strength of several different types of glues.  The Knox glue was actually a stronger than the other glues listed.  It's more consistent as well,  but that's my experience. 

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2016, 02:41:23 pm »
In TBB1 Epoxy is 44lbs, Knox is 43lbs. Hide glue is 38,sinew is 36, fish is 33. Knox is good stuff. It is not made of hooves, you can't make glue out of hooves. Knox is a combo of bones, connective tissue. and rawhide.

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Re: Hide Glue question!
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2016, 03:05:08 pm »
should all be the same ingredient, which is rendered from: connective tissue, cartilage, ears, bones, noses, tendons, skin, tails, marrow, hooves, knuckles, horns and any other gelatinous parts of the animal that you normally don't eat.

you know; the same ingredients that go into SPAM:


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