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Offline snowplow

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Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« on: March 26, 2016, 02:18:16 pm »
Hey guys, I've searched and searched and I cant find much information on how I should wrap them. I have only used sinew a few times for things so I want to get this right.

Can anyone give me a quick how to?

Here's what I 'think' I know-

Cut into thin strips and soak in water (can you soak in glue or something else?)
Wrap in similar fashion to a handle by over wrapping the tag end and pulling the last end through the bottom. However is the thin wet strips of sinew strong enought for this?

Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!

Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2016, 03:31:36 pm »
it should be a small thread,, just soak in a bit of glue and wrap like a thread,, no need to tie it,, it will stick to itself,,

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2016, 04:15:55 pm »
Thanks Brad  :)

So are you saying to actually use thread soaked in glue (what kind of glue?)

or

a thin threadlike strand of sinew made soft by soaking in hide glue?


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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2016, 05:32:27 pm »
Did a few a long time ago.  Just soak the sinew thread in hide glue and wrap, don't forget the sinew will shrink as it dries
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Offline wizardgoat

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2016, 10:46:07 pm »
Do it over a few sessions instead of one. They will turn out better

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2016, 12:40:39 am »
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Offline snowplow

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2016, 01:02:04 am »
Hey Wiz, do you mean do a couple wraps and let harden, then do some more? I could see that being helpful.

Offline snowplow

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2016, 05:07:06 pm »
You know what, I just realized I typed sinew but actually meant rawhide.

So that probably changes everything. It sounds like there might be a few different materials you could use for these.

Rawhide soaked with hide glue
Waxed artificial or real sinew sealed with glue
Glue soaked linen thread

Is this right? Is one material better than an other?

Thanks! Sorry you dont know what you dont know. So its hard to ask good questions here.

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Offline wizardgoat

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2016, 11:42:57 pm »
Ya I just prefer to do it over 2 or 3 nights to get I looking how I want.
After the first wrapping dries, some gaps might open up, so I'll just hit it again.
I find putting a few wraps on at once tough, it keeps wanting to ball up, and flatten out.
The next layers seem to stick better and I can build up a nice shoulder.
Just the way I do it, works for me

Offline wizardgoat

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2016, 11:45:41 pm »
for rawhide I've only laid it over pin nocks, I've never wrapped them like sinew, but I'm sure if it would work

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 01:04:14 am »
  AGAIN WHY  LOOKS

  Wants the reason. I've made 100's of tips never seen one break. Lots in the 70,80,90 pound range. 4 Over 100 pounds.  And I carve my tips in deep.

 Those are really beefy tips on your bow.

  I'd say if your having tip trouble it's because you've heated that bend in to fast with to high heat to long. When ever you heat your wood your changing and damaging woods cell struture. That can't be changed back. Woods like osage takes heat far better than any other woods. But even osage wood cells are damaged and your bow could be better than it would be.
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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 05:54:08 am »
Huh? :o

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2016, 08:29:17 am »
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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2016, 08:39:15 am »
Sometimes CA gets the posts mixed up.

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Re: Sinew wrapped bow nocks
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2016, 08:52:02 am »
 
  AGAIN WHY  LOOKS

  Wants the reason. I've made 100's of tips never seen one break. Lots in the 70,80,90 pound range. 4 Over 100 pounds.  And I carve my tips in deep.

 Those are really beefy tips on your bow.

  I'd say if your having tip trouble it's because you've heated that bend in to fast with to high heat to long. When ever you heat your wood your changing and damaging woods cell struture. That can't be changed back. Woods like osage takes heat far better than any other woods. But even osage wood cells are damaged and your bow could be better than it would be.

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