Just asking man. I'm a bit of a survival enthusiast, maybe more than a bit. I've never walked out with zero in my pockets. I have done a few very minimalistic ventures. Its tough, fun and humbling. Friction fire is a bit**!!! Earlier this winter I grabbed a bow drill kit I had proven many times over. Rolled out a big ember on the basement floor and headed for the woods. That tiny change in humidity stopped the train. I couldn't make an ember to save my butt. I've done the same with a hand drill.