Ghost Knapper,
How are you using the tool?
FWIW, I've found that using indirect from the begining is really inefficient. Both straight and horizontal punching works much better for me once I have an established preform, say from a mid-stage preform on. That more or less follows the model laid out by Cushing in The Arrow as well.
Zuma,
No joke, I wish I had your discipline.
Keith