No, that was at about 3 inches of brace. Here is mostly full brace-I may go another inch in the end. 22" now. Pappy, I do appreciate your willingness to comment. I feel like I am getting the hang of it, but I am still learning. If you look on the bottom picture though, you can see my tillering gizmo--which is the main reason I can get as close as I can. It seems like the the deflexed handle and the pyramid-ish tapered limbs are producing a more rounded tiller, instead of elliptical.