Thanks fellas.I know it's not the conventional way of self bow making but a person does what they can to make things work.Farmers' creed.....lol.I've got to mention the names of a couple of fellas by me here who have been a great influence having fun making and shooting long bows.Grant Poindexter and Gary Hutchinson.Both have been archers well over 40 years.They've made self,laminated,& fiberglass bows too many to mention for themselves and other people.They've been giving and patient with me and my natural materials bows.Grant is just a predator plain and simple and so is Gary but Gary likes to push the envelope with his bows and fine tuning of everything.Their seasons start out west after elk,then back to Iowa for whitetail,then to Texas for hogs.Sometimes they go to Wisconsin for bear.Both have been to Alaska numerous times.Gary got a big bull moose with a hickory self bow.Grant shot kudo,wildebeest,and zebra in Africa even.If a person looks in the TTB 4 book you'll see Grant Poindexters' name in the turtle bow section.His BBO bow shot the 4th fastest or the 4th most efficient bow there that day.Garys' bows are a book in themselves.We regularly shoot quite a few 3D shoots during the summer and indoor ranges after hunting season is over.I've been lucky and blessed to have them as friends.