thanks all. steam might be my next course of action. i tried one more time with dry heat. have my wood stove going. so ive been heating it untill i cant touch it. then, since its my house, i used wide flat boards over the top of that ruffed out bow, screwed those boards to the floor! big very big clamp. if this dont work, ill try the exact same thing with steam. after i steam it, into that floor clamp it goes lmbo. Tony