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Offline DC

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Twist
« on: September 22, 2015, 12:25:19 pm »
I cut and split this Douglas Maple the other day. The long one has more than 90 degrees of twist and the short one is about 90. If I had run this through the bandsaw instead of splitting it would the bow have held together with that much twist. I'm thinking it's pretty much firewood now.

Offline wizardgoat

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Re: Twist
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2015, 12:27:52 pm »
Like vine maple, I'd only ever saw Douglas maple.

Offline DC

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Re: Twist
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2015, 12:29:31 pm »
And you wouldn't worry about this much twist compromising the bow. I'm thinking many runouts.

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Re: Twist
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2015, 12:33:02 pm »
Run outs are made by the guy laying the stave out, nothing else to blame for them. Me? I wouldn't touch those with a 10 meter pole. And it will worsen as they dry down.
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Re: Twist
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2015, 12:50:46 pm »
Those will cook some nice weiners and smores!!!  :laugh:

Offline DC

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Re: Twist
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2015, 01:14:51 pm »
OK. I'm still wondering, if I had run these logs through the bandsaw and made bows would this much twist cause them to break.
My problem here is I can't see if the log is twisted until I split it, and if it is twisted it's a waste of time and a tree.

Offline wizardgoat

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Re: Twist
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2015, 01:47:44 pm »
I haven't made a Douglas bow yet, I have a few staves in th corner though.
On vine maple I've always sawn or used a hatchet to get a flat stavwe, and grain
Run out on smaller Diam stuff hasn't been an issue with me.

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Re: Twist
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2015, 07:33:35 pm »
Its a moot point, but no, I doubt a bow would survive if you had used a saw.
 
Were those stems growing nearly horizontal out of a bank?
 
You might get some snow shoes out of that.

Offline DC

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Re: Twist
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2015, 08:19:16 pm »
They were growing at about 45 degrees. I may just rough them out following the twist and then take a shot at steaming the twist out. I've done it with yew but it wasn't quite as bad as this. I hate to waste a tree, especially when it's already cut and leaning against my shop wall.

Offline bowandarrow473

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Re: Twist
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2015, 09:54:37 pm »
Try taking the twist out, I feel the same as you, if you cut a tree you have a duty to it to use it as best you can.
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Re: Twist
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2015, 11:44:14 pm »
One half done. Seemed to work OK. Steam sure removes bark. It came off in one piece. I guess I'm going to have to tie it to a 2x4 until it's seasoned.

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Re: Twist
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2015, 12:03:20 am »
You might want to take it a little past straight.  It might have some spring back when you untie it
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Re: Twist
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2015, 01:09:15 pm »
Like vine maple, I'd only ever saw Douglas maple.


Saw Douglas or vine....I agree 100%
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