bob, there are pics......ok, i will remove from middle and out. sounds good. i have it braced at 1 inch right now, so it is on a short string so to speak. just a little shorter and i would have my full brace. goods good...i thought i was seeing a flat spot out on right limb about 3/4 to tips, and maybe a hinge toward the handle on right limb, but maybe i have just stared at it too long since noone mentioned it. ill post differnet pics tomorrow and demensions. thanks guys.