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Offline Del the cat

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Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« on: July 20, 2015, 09:18:56 am »
I've been searching the web, but there is too much info on modern"Mollegabet" bows. I can't seem to find any info on the actual archaeological find >:(
It's the curse of the interweb... I end up with pics of my own stuff or PA bows/threads.
Anyone got a link to info on the original?
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Offline Hrothgar

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 10:00:03 am »
Del, you might try perusing some of the PaleoPlanet posts: Mollagabet or holmegaard What's the difference?
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2015, 10:09:39 am »
Del, TBBII has a little about Holmie and Mollie bows.
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Offline half eye

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2015, 10:25:00 am »
Dell,
    I believe that the Danish National Museum has most of the info from the dig site and maybe even re: to other similar finds. I found the site a couple times and should have saved it but did not. I could not figure out the english translation tool at the time.
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2015, 10:27:54 am »
Quote from: Hrothgar on July 20, 2015, 10:00:03 am
Del, you might try perusing some of the PaleoPlanet posts: Mollagabet or holmegaard What's the difference?
Yo, been round that loop, ta.
@ Rich, I'll have a search for that cheers.
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Offline huisme

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2015, 12:33:20 pm »
I wasn't aware of this more recent artifact until a few days ago, it seems our speculation on the design of these bows was mostly correct.

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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2015, 01:10:23 pm »
Cheers, do you have some reference for the pics?
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Offline huisme

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2015, 01:33:40 pm »
Unfortunately no. Halfeye posted it, I hadn't seen it before.
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Offline JonW

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2015, 01:44:07 pm »
The picture that Rich and Marc referenced is the Harjno artifact. Del send a pm to a member here that goes by Holten101. He is pretty knowledgeable on the lever bows.
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Offline Badger

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2015, 02:24:38 pm »
  What we used to call the holmgarde we now call a molagabet. The holmgarde is much more similar to the american longbows. I don't have any references but have seen photos.
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Offline Hans H

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2015, 04:08:30 pm »
Here I found some measurements, maybe it can help?  http://www.gublerdani.ch/Gubi/HOLMEGAARD.GIF
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2015, 04:39:50 pm »
Thanks everyone, I'm following the leads.
I was sort of worried that the bow I'm making was looking a bit "square" and that maybe we were actually progressively changing the design to something over stylised, a sort of caricature of the original. (any thoughts about that?)
Mind it could be I'm just slipping into overthink.
I hope to get my bow finished and posted soon, but I've been busy putting down a new floor... I think Mrs Cat :-* will expect the skirting boards painted too. Off for a few days to see my old Mum next week.
Never enough bow making time!
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Offline bushboy

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2015, 05:28:20 pm »
maybe google horsen fjord bow
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Offline Markus

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Re: Original source material for Mollegabet Bow?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2015, 05:58:26 pm »

This is what was thought to be the so called Møllegabet bow, just a small piece, grey area, was found.
At that time a bit speculative if you ask me to interpret it as a bow, but now that the Hjarnø bow was found in 2011 in Horsens fjord it makes more sense. Markus
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