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Offline DC

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Re: When to back
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2015, 12:30:22 pm »
Quote from: top_predator on July 21, 2015, 09:59:21 am
I guess I won't be backing this one now. Bad design, one hinged limb and one stiff limb that I couldn't even out. At 40#, it went blamo!



I'm wondering if that gray wood had anything to do with it.
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Offline paulsemp

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Re: When to back
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2015, 02:54:57 pm »
Looks like rot to me.
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Re: When to back
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2015, 04:06:33 pm »
Quote from: top_predator on July 21, 2015, 09:59:21 am
I guess I won't be backing this one now. Bad design, one hinged limb and one stiff limb that I couldn't even out. At 40#, it went blamo!






Before that happens, seriously why back it after it's tillered at that time it should be a bow
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Re: When to back
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2015, 03:23:50 am »
Chose better wood next time!
No discoloration at all.
Remove the bark and you will have a pristine continuous ring and don't back it!
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Re: When to back
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2015, 09:41:32 am »
If backing a bow makes you confident in the bow, then do it. Who cares if it "needs" it or not. It needs it if you decide it does. Id add rawhide after a good floor tiller and when you know for a fact it wont need anymore heat applied.
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Re: When to back
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2015, 10:56:08 am »
Thanks Pearl Drums. My motivation is to create something cool for a friend, a memory of a shared experience, plus to learn how to do it. This hobby reminds me of when I was learning to tie flies a decade ago. So many techniques and materials to learn about and gather. Screw ups become lessons, and, in this hobby, firewood:) I love it!

I never considered the blue to be rot. Not what I consider rot, but I guess if a bit of insect or fungi got in there, it would compromise the integrity. New lesson learned!
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Re: When to back
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2015, 11:15:45 am »
Tie flies? Buy them! Much, much cheaper :)

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Offline Danzn Bar

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Re: When to back
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2015, 10:01:24 pm »
Quote from: PEARL DRUMS on July 22, 2015, 11:15:45 am
Tie flies? Buy them! Much, much cheaper :)

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Must be fishing season and not hunting season......right Pearl   :) ;)
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Re: When to back
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2015, 02:39:06 am »
Don't be too hard on yourself. Bigleaf is not a good wood. Needs to be wide and long for a bow. Wild cherry is a better wood for backing. Where are you? California?
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Offline Blayne

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Re: When to back
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2015, 09:16:51 am »
I am on Vancouver Island, in BC. I am really excited because I may have a line on some yew logs from the North Island. All my problems will be solved! I am going to try another maple bow. 72" long and 2" wide, and maybe around 30#. Bow for my wife. I may play with the cherry, will see how time goes. It may go in the woodstove. It is great for that!
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Offline Pat B

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Re: When to back
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2015, 09:32:27 am »
Choke cherry and pin cherry both make pretty good bows and both should be in your area.
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Re: When to back
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2015, 11:54:39 am »
We have something called "Bitter Cherry" (Prunus emarginata). I have a couple of pieces drying. According to my books "Pin" and "Choke" aren't on the Island. They are east of the Coast Range.
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Offline Blayne

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Re: When to back
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2015, 02:56:06 pm »
I have bitter cherry too, all dried. Need split the logs and have a look. Hope it works ok.
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Re: When to back
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2015, 01:53:16 pm »
Quote from: DC on July 23, 2015, 11:54:39 am
We have something called "Bitter Cherry" (Prunus emarginata). I have a couple of pieces drying. According to my books "Pin" and "Choke" aren't on the Island. They are east of the Coast Range.

Bow101 just sent me a link to a gov't site that says Chokecherry does grow on the south end of the Island. I stand corrected :D. Vancouver Island has a large difference in trees from north to south.
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Re: When to back
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2015, 03:28:53 pm »
Quote from: DC on July 25, 2015, 01:53:16 pm
Quote from: DC on July 23, 2015, 11:54:39 am
We have something called "Bitter Cherry" (Prunus emarginata). I have a couple of pieces drying. According to my books "Pin" and "Choke" aren't on the Island. They are east of the Coast Range.

Bow101 just sent me a link to a gov't site that says Chokecherry does grow on the south end of the Island. I stand corrected :D. Vancouver Island has a large difference in trees from north to south.

As a matter of fact that scrap piece I gave you was cherry not Hawthorn.  No wonder it was sweet smelling when I cut into it. 
Hawthorn is quite prevalent down here its Knarly like Black Locust.   :)  Small flowers, small berries and rough bark.
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