Some how I was messing around in ebay and run into these really quality looking spined, straight, long between the nodes, and very uniform looking shafts. Price seemed reasonable even considering the shipping. There was also very nice looking finished bamboo arrow sets in dozens and half dozens at cheap sounding prices. When you have gone to all the work of making these kind of arrows it makes them seem dirt cheap. If a person wanted really cool arrows without all the hours of straightening the would seem to be worth looking at. I also found really cool water buffalo nocks that insert into the bamboo shaft and lots of really nice fletching. Kenneth