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Offline jayman448

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will willow work?
« on: April 03, 2015, 03:51:05 am »
i may have asked this already. will willow work? i found a good shoot that is about 13 inches round. there is a knotted area but they are both on the same side and it can be put smack dab in the handle i think. so... cut it or leave it?

Offline Del the cat

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2015, 04:31:12 am »
It's generally considered not worth using,(too weak in compression) but it can make a bow. Mind it grows so straight and plentiful (well it does round me) I would only consider a perfect piece and then only if you have no other alternative.
You could make a cricket bat with it tho' >:D
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Offline jayman448

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2015, 05:12:07 am »
mkay. as far as bow wood goes, i hate where i live. much anger XD

Offline Pat B

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2015, 08:09:50 am »
Find out which bows woods were used by local Natives.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline alwayslookin

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 12:05:16 pm »
Where do you live?
In all your ways acknowledge  him and he will make your paths straight.

Offline Onebowonder

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2015, 01:27:07 pm »
His Profile says "Interior BC Canada".  There are more than a few well reputed bow woods from that area from what I hear.  Yew would be the first one, ...but they have Apple, Birch, Dogwood, Black Hawthorn, Juniper, Vine Maple, Other maples, and some Oaks.  I've never been there, but several of these sound like woods that we see bows made from betimes on this site.


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Offline Tree_Ninja

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2015, 02:26:48 pm »
I grabbed some willow I had mistaken for Osoberry (no leaves)   

 I couldn't figure out why It wouldn't work too well. I managed to make one or two sub-20# bows before I learned what osoberry looks like.

   Look for serviceberry or saskatoon berry. Scotch broom would work. Or take a road trip to the coastal region.  Good weekend for it.

Offline jayman448

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2015, 09:31:50 pm »
I live in high elevation interior. As ive said before. No maple. No juniper. No nothing. Willow, very rare birch, even more rare ash, and then spruce, pine, fir and small shrubby saskatoon. Thats it unless i am not seeing the others. But hats all ive come across in my area. I could get nice ash and apple..... but id have to steal them from the subdivisions in town xD

Offline jayman448

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2015, 09:33:11 pm »
As for native biws, i have come to my ameture conclusion that they must have traded them

Offline wizardgoat

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2015, 02:29:48 am »
Your up near 100 mile house right? You may have to drive an hour or 2 or 3, but there's plenty of good bow wood up there. i cut all my juniper near Kamloops.
Lots of fruit trees up there too.
Interior natives used Rocky mountain juniper, Douglas maple, choke cherry, and yew, both backed and unbacked, and both short and long.

Offline wizardgoat

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2015, 02:34:19 am »
Seriously though, you live a day's drive to yew paradise, in a few directions. How many guys here would jump at that chance?

Offline jayman448

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2015, 03:24:28 am »
I have no car. Or money. A three hour drive is out of the question for me at the moment xD where is yew???

Offline wizardgoat

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2015, 04:21:29 am »
Baby steps I guess, first get money, then get a car, THEN go cut some yew  :laugh:

Offline wizardgoat

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2015, 04:25:09 am »
To answer you first question,  willow will make a bow. An awesome bow? Probably not. I recall seeing some deflexed tip willow bows in the encyclopedia. South west tribes

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Re: will willow work?
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2015, 04:26:53 am »
Just use the willow.  Mikke made an 80#+ bow from willow a while back.  Took some set but looked beautiful. 

If you have enough of it, you can become very experienced in using a wood species that not many bother with.  It clearly works as bow wood, it just requires a different approach to normal.

Get various lengths and experiment with widths and profiles until you find one that works, and you're away.