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Offline Parnell

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Opinion - Animal pain
« on: April 01, 2015, 02:37:41 pm »
I'm curious about how viewpoints regarding the topic of animals and their ability to feel pain.  I know most folks do their best to make ethical decisions in general when it comes to hunting, but we do miss shots and we do at times make mistakes and have poor judgment.  I'm curious about opinions on whether you think animals feel pain and suffer the same as people or differently. 

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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2015, 02:53:21 pm »
It kills me Par Par. Every critter I kill I feel a lot of remorse for and it moves me. The older I get the more I feel it. Farm animals are different, I can do whatever is needed with them. I cant explain why it varies. 
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Offline vinemaplebows

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2015, 02:54:02 pm »
Yes. How they inturpret that pain (understanding the whys and hows) may be a different issue. Without pain no species would not know how and why to avoid potential species ending scenerios.
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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2015, 03:08:03 pm »
Yeah they feel pain and if i don't have a quick kill it really bothers me , but they taste so damn good >:D
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Offline YosemiteBen

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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2015, 03:13:04 pm »
yes they do. I have seen bears cry in pain after being hit by cars. I watch my old dog as she gets up every morning... won't be too long before i gotta put her down. legs are starting to give out when she walks..... Quicker is better, sometimes it just don't work that way.

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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2015, 05:35:56 pm »
Of course they feel the pain but they have not yet learned to get sympathy because other animals really don't care.
I have shot many deer eating clover, the others disappear for a bit then come back and munch the clover over the dead
buck. I have been filleting the fish while alive and will most likely burn in hell.
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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2015, 07:12:08 pm »
Of course they feel the pain but they have not yet learned to get sympathy because other animals really don't care.
I have shot many deer eating clover, the others disappear for a bit then come back and munch the clover over the dead
buck. I have been filleting the fish while alive and will most likely burn in hell.
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You will have plenty of company then..... :laugh:
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Offline Chief RID

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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2015, 07:31:49 pm »
I would not touch this one with a flight bow.

Offline JW_Halverson

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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2015, 08:58:33 pm »
As the only one in the equation with the concepts of mercy and compassion in the game of hunter and hunted, it is our responsibility to do what we can about it, to the best of our ability, and to answer for it when we screw up.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2015, 09:40:11 pm »
As the only one in the equation with the concepts of mercy and compassion in the game of hunter and hunted, it is our responsibility to do what we can about it, to the best of our ability, and to answer for it when we screw up.

Well stated, JW. 
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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2015, 10:12:19 pm »
I've watched a lot of turkeys deal with it. I don't know how many gobblers I've seen deal with the heart felt grief watching their buddy die, and then celebrate his sad departure into the afterlife, (my freezer) by taking turns having sex with it. Now, that's remorse and feelings!
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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2015, 12:35:09 am »
Lemme get this straight mullet.. you let your turkeys have sex with a frozen turkey? Well thats one interesting way to marinate or baste your turkey.
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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2015, 02:19:11 am »
Good question.  Animals certainly have to deal with pain in a different way than we do.  If they spend too much time fussing and sitting down when they are in pain (like we do) they get eaten pretty quick.  I think nature has put a high tolerance for pain into most animals, for their own good.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2015, 05:38:08 am »
Of course they do, that is why stray dogs yelp when I shoot them. ;) :) :) OK lets be serious they feel pain but as JW said it's our responsibility to do the best we can and hopefully most of us feel remorse when we fail to do that. Their understanding of pain is certainly different from ours and I think that is where folks get into trouble[animal rights folks] thinking that they think and feel as we do. :) They were put here for us to enjoy and use as needed. ;)
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Re: Opinion - Animal pain
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2015, 09:25:45 am »
Sure they feel pain but the have a high resiliency towards it. I think they have the ability to turn it off actually. More like, "Ok, that hurt.  Better get out of here and turn off the pain so I can function. " based on no evidence just observing and wishing I could do that.
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