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Offline clewis

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Stave ID
« on: March 31, 2015, 11:29:12 am »
Hi all,

I just wanted to confirm that this stave is in fact hickory. The stave was cut a few weeks ago and sawn into a wedge. Anyway I had just wondered if it is hickory or not. Any help appreciated.

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Offline crooketarrow

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2015, 11:35:13 am »
  It looks to be hickory. If it's grayish bark it's hickory. ELM looks like pig nut hickory. But ELMS GREENISH BROWN. All hickorys are aways grayish.
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Offline clewis

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2015, 12:04:01 pm »
So if I remove the bark and lay out my bow, the bow will mostly be sapwood. The stave is about 3.5 inches wide and 6-7inches deep, I can get several bows out of it is what I'm thinking, though I could be wrong. Thoughts...
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Offline turmoiler

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2015, 01:33:44 pm »
Black walnut?
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Offline JeremiahVires

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2015, 02:22:06 pm »
Looks more like Elm in my opinion.  But I deduced this mostly due to the bark texture and such.  I've had many-a Elm staves cut my hands up in my time.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 02:48:34 pm »
Do you have any of the branches so we can see the buds.
  If it is 3.5"x7" you should be able to get a good belly split off of it. With most whitewoods you want to use the sapwood, the wood right under the bark.
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 06:36:34 pm »
That stave has mighty thin sapwood for hickory. All the hickory I have cut was 2/3 sapwood and about 1/3 heart wood.
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Offline J05H

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 06:50:18 pm »
First thing I thought of was sassafras, but there's not a lot to go on. The lighting makes it hard to see the color. If it were sassafras, it would be surprisingly light. Much lighter than hickory or elm. Keep in mind, I'm by no means an expert.
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Offline bushboy

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 06:52:36 pm »
Looks more like an ash to me.
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Offline Drewster

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 09:25:11 pm »
I agree with Eric.  Hickory typically has a MUCH higher percentage of sapwood that what that piece shows.  Not enough information to determine exactly what it is, but I'm fairly confident that is not hickory.
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Offline TacticalFate

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2015, 01:43:45 am »
Is the bark spongey? Then it's probably elm.
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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2015, 02:57:58 am »
You can't really tell from the pictures you've shown.
Can you post a picture of the end grain and maybe a close-up picture of some of the wood once you've cut into it (sand it smooth too).
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Offline chamookman

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 03:30:24 am »
The Bark made Me think Red Elm. Bob
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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2015, 05:05:14 am »
Not sure, but as you can see from the response, I think at least 6 different opinions, need more to go on, but I will say it is probably bow wood either way. ;) if it is any of the above it's good bow wood. :)
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Offline turmoiler

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Re: Stave ID
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2015, 05:55:37 am »
I still think that it is black walnut: https://www.google.es/search?q=black+walnut+bark&biw=960&bih=542&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=JbcbVfatBYS9UdXigNAJ&sqi=2&ved=0CCAQsAQ

The heartwood/sapwood ratio is also a hint and you can confuse bw with hickory because leaves and nuts are very simmilar.

Just my thoughts.
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