Patrick, no I am the one to apologize. I have not been online for a week. Buzzy and lazy. After studying up on the stone tool bows and white woods and how easy the bark pulls off of summer cut white woods, maybe we should wait for a while. The stone tool thing is going to be tough enough at best so we had best make it as easy as possible. So don't hurry up on my account, lets wait for summer. If you would like any of my trade items I would be glad to go ahead and ship. Kenneth