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Offline Josh B

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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2015, 09:26:12 am »
I've been thinking on this quite a bit this week.  There's been quite a bit of supposition and assumptions thrown out about ERC and no one has done more of it than myself.  I have had no luck with trunkwood and yet many others have made fine bows from it.  Heartwood showing on the back as always spelled disaster for a selfbow in my experience.  However, someone mentions that another made selfbows using only heartwood.  There are many, many contradictory reports of what works and what doesn't.  I've decided to setup a little more controlled experimentation.  I intend to cut samples of limbs and trunks from in the open Sun light, shelter belts and from under canopy.  Cut 30 samples each and keep accurate records of growing condition, RPI  and any other pertinent information.  The plan is divide each sample group into thirds.  One third will be untouched sapwood back, one third decrowned back, and the last bit heartwood backed.  I'll cut them all the same day and store them the same way to season.  When seasoned I'll start the testing procedures(sort of like the slat bending test)  and record my findings.  I've built quite a few ERC selfbows and blew up a lot of attempts, but it occurs to me that even at that, it's not enough experience to be telling others how to go about it.  When I learn more I will share my findings.  I apologize if I've led anyone a stray.  Josh

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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2015, 09:29:37 am »
Dagnabbit!  I meant to put this on Pearly's thread.  Sorry bout that Chris. :-[  Josh

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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2015, 09:32:11 am »
Copy n paste Josh ;) ...no worries ya put it here.

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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2015, 09:33:42 am »
Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.  Looks sweet so far!
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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2015, 10:02:59 am »
Dagnabbit!  I meant to put this on Pearly's thread.  Sorry bout that Chris. :-[  Josh



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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2015, 10:49:17 am »
My assumption that it had a lil bit of moisture to lose was correct. It lost 3/10's of an ounce in 13 hours after reduction. So I evened up the tiller losing another 1.1 ounces in the process,and I'll let it sit for a few days or a week to be close to stabilized. Another note is that it gained a teeny bit more reflex,and it is actually reflexed by a 1/4". So I might not do much if any heat to it if I don't have to. I'd like to keep the build as simple as possible and leave out as much possible "contaminations" as I can.

Here's the lower limbs floor tiller.



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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2015, 03:23:52 am »
So far so good
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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2015, 08:50:18 am »
I have faith in you Chris. ;) :)
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Offline Parnell

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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2015, 08:57:22 am »
This is great, Chris!  I'll be watching, for sure!
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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2015, 10:59:20 am »
About time someone does an ERC build that knows what they are doing:)

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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2015, 12:43:34 pm »
About time someone does an ERC build that knows what they are doing:)

I agree Roy
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Offline Roy

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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2015, 01:51:13 pm »
No isn't you.. There is some guy out there in central Michigan that tries to make ERC bows. I think he goes by Pearl Dumb, or something like that.. :)

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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2015, 02:21:48 pm »
I think I may have heard of him before
Not sure where right now
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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2015, 03:20:35 pm »
I have three juniper selfbows two of them are all heartwood. If I can do it you should be able to knock it out of the park
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Re: An Unbacked ERC Adventure
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2015, 04:51:23 pm »
Alright Newindian. I have to see them. especially the heartwood ones. Now we are getting somewhere.