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Founding a new worldwide Primitive flightbow federation?
Badger:
I like he sound of federation but not 100% sure I fully understand the meaning. As far as I know it would fit nicely.
avcase:
There has been recent interest to expand the reach of the U.S. Primitive flight events so that they are also sanctioned under the World Archery umbrella. I feel it would be very positive for the future of flight archery if we can get it done. Such a change would make it possible to shoot Primitive Flight for official world records at our US National AND any one of the three annual flight shoots currently held in the UK.
Alan
Badger:
That would be great Allen. I think a world federation with a lot more local clubs in states and smaller countries would make the sport a lot more accessable to those who have some interest but have not totally committed.
Something else I would like to see in the federation is when we publish the results of shoots and records, instead of just posting records have one sheet for each class and show the top 25 or so shots that have been made in that class. Just getting on the sheet and then moving up on the sheet could be motivational.
Del the cat:
--- Quote from: Badger on January 04, 2015, 04:44:13 pm --- If we have anyone here who is knowledgeable about surveying they may want to give is a hand on establishing a measuring method that would be quick and accurate. I am thinking that a series of 100 yard tapes could be stetched out on a centerline of the flight field and then use a scope at a right angle to the center line to gather distances might be an inexpensive low tec method.
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I know it's against the current flight rules... but I'd favour direct measurement from arrow to shoot position. It avoids trying to work out if you are perpendicular to the centre line and allows quick direct reading with a laser range finder.
There is an argument that says it is actually a better measure of how far the arrow is going.
It would certainly be how I would do it if I was shooting on my own. It saves marking a centre line.
Del
avcase:
I do like the existing primitive flight rules because they are pretty simple with few restrictions except materials used. There is very little to restrict anyone from shooting their favorite design. The best designs to achieve maximum cast will naturally float to the top.
One common suggestion to the current rules is that there are only 50-lb and Unlimited weight categories. I imagine we will add an intermediate 65-lb or 70-lb weight if enough interest persists. Last year, we started recording the actual draw weights of some of the bows used. This year, I'd like to record actual draw weight of all bows that are weighed. If actual draw weight is recorded, then we would have the option to consider future record status for bows that may have fallen outside the 50-lb cut-off.
Steve,
I have been accumulating prior records on one database so we can see the full history for any given type of equipment. I feel it makes the sport more interesting. It is a good suggestion. It certainly takes time to research the past records, but moving forward (starting in 2009), every measured shot has been permanently recorded in one database. Therefore, instead of comin away disappointed at not breaking THE record, a flight shooter can have the satisfaction of knowing that they may have just shot one of the top five distances ever recorded for a 50-lb self bow, for example. Other possibilities could be recognition of top distance over the last 10 years, or 50 years, etc.
Del,
Besides tradition, a reason we measure distances perpendicular to a shooting line is that it allows more than one archer to shoot at a time, and helps limit the spread of arrows in the field. I kind of like this incentive for some level of accuracy. We use a Total Station theodolite for measuring the distances. It measures perpendicular distance from the shoot line without chance of error. The Total Station also reports how far off perpendicular the arrow landed (relative to the center of the shooting line).
Alan
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