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Offline sleek

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split out handle build up help please
« on: December 26, 2014, 02:18:43 pm »


Nust got this bow bending 40#@26 and the handle has a little give to it. I dont have the meat to grind a flat and glue on wood, its full of tear outs from splitting.  So I was thinking something along the lines of glue soaked hemp rope strands laid in and build up like sinew until I have good thickness and finish it off with a wrap? Any other ideas anybody can offer?
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Offline DC

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2014, 02:31:24 pm »
I've run across this sort of thing and finally used glue and sawdust. Not the best looking choice. I've wondered what Ishi would have done? Maybe built it up with pitch glue/ Sinew and hide glue? Maybe anything and hide glue? All of them end up looking much like glue and sawdust :-\. I think your glue and rope has as good a chance of looking somewhat like wood grain.

Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2014, 02:47:40 pm »
I'd probaly would and have let the handle bend. Jawge
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Offline sleek

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2014, 02:54:33 pm »
The handle does bend. Im not trying to stiff it up, im trying to add more meat to the handle for a more comfy grip and make it look good.
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Offline PatM

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2014, 02:59:07 pm »
Do what  blackhawk did, grind a flat at the angle already there and glue on a  piece.

Offline sleek

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2014, 03:16:28 pm »
Hmmmmm its tempting. Any idea what I could search to find that? Where is Chris these days anyway?
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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2014, 03:23:24 pm »
I'll try to find it but I really don't think you need to see it.  Just make it flat, stick a piece on and reshape.
 
 BOOM! My memory was correct. http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,47763.0.html
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2014, 03:29:19 pm »
no dont grind it flat :)  fill it in with sinew,, then sand the sinew flat,, wrap  the handle in sinew,,, then put a nice thin rawhide wrap over the handle and fades,,,  it will look great,,, and the handle area will be beefed up a bit,,,you can even put a soft leather handle over the rawhide,,

Offline sleek

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2014, 03:48:16 pm »
Thanks Pat, thats what I wanted to see, how it would look with different color wood glued on. Now, I wonder how an elk billet would look glued on the side just like Blackhawk had to deal with, and an elck billet crown with bark to cap it off, and of course I would accent the tips with elk inlays.
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Offline bubby

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2014, 05:10:35 pm »
Ya know sleek you could also grind it flat at the tear outs and ad layers of leather that would look good as well and you could stain it any color you want
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Offline sleek

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2014, 05:16:16 pm »
I have it gound flat now, and am on my way to see a friend with some elk billets.

A leather stack up.... that could be done to look interesting.  Especially if different colors were used in the layers....what glue would be best to use for that Bubby?
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Offline aaron

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2014, 07:16:34 pm »
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2014, 07:44:34 pm »
Ah! Gotcha. May be add some glued on leather? Jawge
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2014, 08:07:52 pm »
I had a stave that split out much worse than yours, I called it my Frankenstein bow. I started flattening places and gluing on pieces.

Here is a start, it is bamboo backed.



Shaped;



A guy found a bow with my name on it in an archery shop in Chattanooga and sent me a picture.



It was my Frankenstein bow, still shooting many years later.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: split out handle build up help please
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2014, 08:19:24 pm »
Bondo!  ;)
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