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Offline Carson (CMB)

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A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« on: December 15, 2014, 05:08:48 pm »
Here is a link to my latest blog article describing the simple knot. I have only played with it a little so far and havent tried it out on any heavy bows, but so far, so good. Would love to hear feedback from others who give this knot a try on Fast Flight tillering strings.

On second thought, not sure if providing the direct link is allowed, so I will just copy the body of the article.


Fast Flight Strings and the Bowyer's Knot: a Solution from Japan



A while back, I wrote a blog post on the utility of the bowyer's knot in the bow making process. One important aspect I left out of that post was the importance of string material to the function of the boywer's knot.  The reliability of the bowyer's knot is dependent on the material of the string.  While the bowyer's knot, aka timber hitch, holds securely on the rawhide, hemp, linen, sinew, and even Dacron B50 (polyester) strings, it has a tendency to pull out when used on the modern low stretch string materials, such as Fast Flight (kevlar). This can be frustrating, as the low-stretch material is well-suited to the task of tillering, while material such as B-50 is not.  Anyone who has experienced making a long-string from B-50 only to have a reflexed bow of decent weight stretch all of the brace out of the string knows that there has to be a better material for tillering strings. Likewise, the bowyer who has a fast flight string slip its bowyer's knot while under tension on the tillering tree wants for a way to make it work. Well, it appears the solution comes from Japan and the practice of Kyud: Japanese Archery.

I had recently cut a very long stave of vine maple (Acer circinatum). It had very nice reflex that began to really show itself after sawing the mature vine maple trunk in half along its length. This reflex was balanced near a point favoring the lower limb. Its form immediately brought to mind the Yumi bows of Japanese Archery. The Yumi bow is traditionally constructed of a bamboo belly and back with a bamboo and mulberry laminated core, but the idea of making a vine maple self bow in the yumi form had captured my imagination. I started in on reaserching the finer details of the Yumi's construction, and that is when I stumbled upon the solution.

The Tsuru, or Yumi bow-string, incorporates an adjustable lower loop (Tsuruwa?) that struck me as simply a "double bowyer's knot". This simple variation on the handy western knot looked like it might be the ticket for utilizing the low-stretch Fast Flight string material in an adjustable tillering string. I have since given it some testing on Fast Flight Plus string material, and so far, the knot holds. This, in my opinion, is huge; to utilize an adjustable knot with the low-stretch kevlar based string materials, such as Fast Flight Plus, is to remove the fuss and finagling from tillering strings.  It is the small discoveries, such as this, that I find exciting enough to write a blog about. I hope the information is shared widely enough that green bowyer's everywhere will not have to experience the frustration of having an adjustable Fast Flight tillering string fail at the knot on them.

The knot itself is quite basic. It is a simple modification on the well-known bowyer's knot (aka timber hitch). The tsuru knot differs only from the bowyer's knot in that it incorporates two wraps around the body of the string, as opposed to one in the bowyer's knot, hence the name "double bowyers knot". This doubling-up appears to be all that it is needed to make the knot hold on "slick" materials such as Fast Flight.

The tsuru knot, an adjustable bow string knot from Japanese Archery, Kyudu. The solution to the bowyer's knot and issues of slippage with kevlar based string materials.
   
At this point, I have only tested it on a couple of bows and only one of the modern kevlar based string materials and that is Fast Flight Plus in a 12 strand (2 bundles of 6) string.  Based on the performance of the tsuru or "double bowyer's knot" with this material, my feeling is that this knot will hold on any of the variations of modern low-stretch string materials. If you find that not to be the case, please let me know in the comments.


"The bow is the old first lyre,
the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2014, 05:18:41 pm »
That's how I've always done mine....  ???  ::)  so I guess this doesnt apply to me...but I'm sure it'll help someone else out ;)

Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2014, 05:30:19 pm »
Chris, I just assume that any knowledge I can share does not apply to you ;)
"The bow is the old first lyre,
the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso

Offline Peacebow_Coos

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 10:36:49 pm »
Thanks for sharing, that's pretty simple but looks super effective

Offline SLIMBOB

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2014, 10:59:43 pm »
Good info. I stumbled across this some time back in just playing with the knot in an attempt to keep it from slipping.
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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 12:56:51 am »
Exactly, it s pretty simple.  I felt a little dull knot having thought of it myself. Props to slimbob and Chris. It is testament to learning through practice.

"The bow is the old first lyre,
the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso

Offline H Rhodes

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2014, 04:26:33 am »
Thanks for posting this Carson.  I will give this knot a try. 
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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 10:08:14 am »
Epiphany!!

Offline ajbruggink

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2014, 11:25:11 am »
Thanks for posting this Carson.  I will give this knot a try.
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Offline TimBo

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2014, 06:03:07 pm »
I will try this on my next string and cackle gleefully if it works!

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2014, 07:38:30 pm »
The tsuruknot is a timber hitch with an extra loop around the standing bight. Check out Animated Knots.com, the timber hitch is also known as the bowyers knot.
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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2014, 08:26:22 pm »
Thank you for posting - will give it a try.  Wish Chris would have posted it a long time ago ??? :laugh:
Enjoy the hunt!  Mitch

Offline sweeney3

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Re: A Bowyer's knot that holds with Fast Flight!!
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2014, 09:56:26 am »
Exactly, it s pretty simple.  I felt a little dull knot having thought of it myself....

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