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Offline PatM

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2014, 02:44:43 pm »
Go with a narrow flatbow design, 64" long and kerf the tips.
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2014, 03:03:16 pm »
Quote from: PatM on October 21, 2014, 02:44:43 pm
Go with a narrow flatbow design, 64" long and kerf the tips.

Bingo
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Offline Blaflair2

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2014, 03:17:44 pm »
All I got is my table saw, my bandsaw took a dump on me. Would that be deep enough? I Have some hickory backing, it's not perfect. Or should I go with the boo?
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Offline bubby

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2014, 04:01:17 pm »
Do a search for boo backed epe redux,  that bow has demensions that will work for you, if ya can't find it I'll dig it up when I get home, I did glued on reflexed tips and turned out great
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Offline vyadha

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2014, 04:09:40 pm »
I dont post a lot but I lurk quite a bit and make lots of Ipe and Boo or Hickory bows.

The narrow flatbow that Pat suggested is the way to go IMO.

In my experience, hickory is just as reliable as boo and easier to work with. But boo is sexier.
Post pics of the hickory backing. That stuff can cope with some grain run off.

On another note, it took me 40 or 50 bows to start breaking them. As was stated earlier, totally overbuilt and way too safe. At least your getting the cracklackas out of the way now!
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Offline bubby

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2014, 04:16:24 pm »
I just Googled it, 74# @29" 63" ntn with flipped tips, is that what you are wanting
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Offline Blaflair2

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2014, 04:34:53 pm »
It's not letting the pix load. But yes those are around what I want for stats.
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Offline vyadha

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
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Offline Blaflair2

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2014, 05:51:23 pm »
Yeah, pretty much.
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Offline adb

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2014, 07:11:55 pm »
Quote from: DC on October 21, 2014, 01:42:54 pm
Do you think the Ipe overpowered the Ash? Are there successful Ash backed Ipe out there?

I've likely made 40-50 (or more) ash backed ipe bows over the last couple years. Most of those are stiff handled pyramid flatbows, ranging from 60" - 66".

Besides maple, it's my favourite whitewood backing material.

The only ash backed ipe failure I've ever had was this summer on a 135# ash backed ipe warbow.
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Offline Blaflair2

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2014, 07:46:25 pm »
Your skills are quite a bit better than mine adam
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Offline adb

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2014, 08:01:10 pm »
I don't know about that. Get yourself a design that works, and these bows almost tiller themselves. I think the design you're using is the problem. A laminate pyramid flatbow needs to have a stiff non-bending handle, otherwise you're going to continue having the failures you describe.

What you lack in experience, you make up for with enthusiasm! Just make sure you channel that in a good direction. What's that old saying about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...  ;)
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Offline Blaflair2

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2014, 08:12:05 pm »
I've saw a lot of ur work, drooled over some. Ur a better craftsman than I atm
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Offline Knoll

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2014, 09:06:01 pm »
Bla ... am too new to be offering advice.  I exploded 2 attempts at Perry Reflex.  And getting my nerve up to try 1st backed w/ sumpin Ipe.  So this thread of yours is much appreciated perfect timing and am soaking in all the info you're getting. 
Best of luck with next one!
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Offline Prarie Bowyer

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Re: Ash backed ipe blew
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2014, 09:21:04 pm »
I've list more ipe bows than anything else.

I dint use it anymore.  Boo or rawhide are all I'd consider backing it with.  It also likes to be longer bows.
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