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Offline wizardgoat

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snakeskin / fishskin backings
« on: October 11, 2014, 03:01:54 pm »
I know snake skin bows are considered self bows, because snake skins skins don't provide much protection, only decoration.
Very thin fabric and paper are considered backings.
Where do fish skins fall? Some species are as thin as snake, while some are extremely thick and need to be sanded heavily (yum)
I just figure anything glued to a bow is a backing, but then again I also
think a real self bow can't be made from billets, but lets not go there.
Really, im just not sure what category to enter my sturgeon backed bow for BOM
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Offline Pat B

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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2014, 03:37:52 pm »
You might ask Cipriano when you enter it in BOM.
 Most folks consider joined billets as a selfbow and I agree.
 IMO any added backing, snake skin, fish skin, rawhide, paper and even sinew are backed selfbows unless that have a hard backing then they are a backed bow. 
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2014, 06:36:54 pm »
No skins are purely decorative -- I would think that anything besides finish and air over the wood, would make a backed bow. Our nomenclature is just our definitions, though.
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 06:47:21 pm »
Quote from: Chadwick on October 11, 2014, 06:36:54 pm
No skins are purely decorative -- I would think that anything besides finish and air over the wood, would make a backed bow. Our nomenclature is just our definitions, though.
Michael

I'm new at this but this makes sense. Since you have to glue the skin down that adds to its strength, even thin skin glued down will help prevent splinters from raising.
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 11:22:37 pm »
I think this question has come up before.  Not sure what the answer is regarding the rules for backed and unbacked entries.  Cipriano would know.
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2014, 11:46:40 pm »
I don't intend to steal the thread but is fish skin a functional backing? I've heard snakeskin isn't but I know that cherry bark is because I've used it.
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Offline Weylin

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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2014, 12:30:42 am »
Don't we have to enter rawhide and sinew backed bows in the backed category?
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2014, 01:04:22 am »
Wizard goat,  my question is,  did you apply the sturgeon skins as a decorative addition to your bow? Or did you use them as a protective layer for the back? I don't  know where it would fall in the rules. But in my mind if I used them as protection then I "backed"  my bow. If not then their just for decoration. JMO, Patrick
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Offline wizardgoat

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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2014, 02:05:12 am »
its backed for decoration, and for protection.  i always find a way to put little dents in yew sapwood
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2014, 05:38:22 am »
I'll make the pop corn. :)
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2014, 08:13:12 am »
Quote from: Pappy on October 14, 2014, 05:38:22 am
I'll make the pop corn. :)
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2014, 10:04:27 am »
You bet.  ;) :) :) :) :)
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2014, 10:44:56 am »
In the rules it states.

"Self Bow Category:

1. Any bow in which the bending portion of the limb is made of one piece of wood. Tip overlays and handle laminations count in the selfbow category as long as the bending portion of the limbs remain one piece of wood. The back of the bow must be only wood or snake skin. 

2.  Modern String materials are allowed (some examples: B-50 dacron and Fast Flight)"
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Re: snakeskin / fishskin backings
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2014, 11:09:17 am »
Snake skins,at least most snake skins [very large snakes maybe some] provide not protection at all that is why that rule was put in place. :) :)
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