Well.... I stalked a doe to about 10 yrds and right as I got to where the scrub brush opened enough for the shot I got caught by one I didn't see. It was pouring out so I got outta the stand. Everything was bed right down so I figured I had higher chances on the ground. Least I saw some. Going to the horse farm I can hunt this evening with my buddy and his son. Try our luck out there.