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Offline sieddy

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hazel tillering input appreciated
« on: September 23, 2014, 05:21:48 am »
Hi fellas my 63" Hazel D bow appears to be holding up. Any input on the tiller would be greatly appreciated. The braced pic is about 5" and the draw is 17". Thanks Si
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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 05:36:11 am »
Looking good, but right limb looks stiffer?
But from how it sits on the tiller I'm guessing that's the lower limb, so maybe that fine :)
Maybe mid limbs could do a tad more? The middle and tips seem to be working
It's worth while getting a tiller set up somewhere nice and square if possible, I realize we don't all have the luxury of big workshops tho'  :'(
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 06:46:44 am »
Thanks Del- its still pulling above my drawweight so i'll keep going and keep my fingers crossed! It makes me nervous pulling it further back now! :-0
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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 07:29:04 am »
Looking pretty good to me,I would just kep doing what you are doing and work it out to draw length and weight. :)
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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2014, 08:28:19 am »
With that raised area at your handle section it looks like your bending it backwards  ???  ???  ??? Did u glue something to the back of it???

So what and why is that???  ....and which side are you removing wood from???  ??? Sorry but I have to ask cus it don't look right

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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 09:29:14 am »
With that raised area at your handle section it looks like your bending it backwards  ???  ???  ??? Did u glue something to the back of it???

So what and why is that???  ....and which side are you removing wood from???  ??? Sorry but I have to ask cus it don't look right
Looks like bark on the back and a flat belly to me, which is a good design for Hazel...
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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 09:40:14 am »
H :)ey Blackhawk and Del
This stick is indeed au natural i took the bark off but there is a layer of wrinkly cambium stuff on the back which i think is pretty cool. I've left the handle area a little thicker as i read that a d bow should be slightly stiffer at the grip. Thanks again
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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 09:44:24 am »
Looking good to me.  Just a little stiff on the right limb.  Did you narrow the handle area?

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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 09:51:06 am »
Hi Matt
The handle is an inch wide and from the fades the limbs are just under 2". I've been learning from you guys!  :)
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2014, 12:20:40 pm »
I got my stick back to 23" now. Its looking good to me but was starting to follow the string so ive  heat treated it.  i'll give it a c :)ouple of days to rehydrate and then get back at it. 
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2014, 12:22:24 pm »
Sorry for the wonky photo!   ::)
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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2014, 01:19:40 pm »
Looking good. I wouldn't worry too much about a bit of set. How wide are the limbs, I reckon you need a good 2" to avoid set unless you heat treat.
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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2014, 01:35:55 pm »
I agree with del.  looking good.  Have you decided what limb is going to be the top and bottom?  The right limb would make a good candidate for the bottom.  Just a tad stiff in the mid but nothing too bad.  Great job.  How far of a draw are you shooting for.  Also what weight are you shooing for
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 03:54:29 pm »
Cheers fellas its just under 2" wide (i wouldve gone wider but messed up the layout!)   ::)
I don't mind a little set but hope i can nip it in the bud now. I had thought the left limb would be bottom but its feeling a bit better the other way round so i might well go with the right. I'm going with the flow with draw length and weight if i can get it  between 35-40# @ 26" i'll be chuffed. I'm lovin the adventure anyway! :D
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Re: hazel tillering input appreciated
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2014, 04:21:31 pm »
Well you're almost there then  :).  Keep up the good work.  what weight are you at now?