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Offline Fred Arnold

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Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« on: August 13, 2014, 10:32:54 am »
I'm finishing a nice little  rawhide backed osage bow  for a good friends 5 yr old grand daughter. This will be the 3rd kids bow trying to add some quail feathers to the back for decoration. The last 2 were acceptable but the feathers dealt me fits trying to get them to stay in place. Any suggestions?

Quail feathers compliments of Criverville. Thanks Cipriano!!!
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Offline 4dog

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 10:43:56 am »
"have you tried staples"?  (bill murray-scrooged)

no help but ive always wanted to say that to someone...lol
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Offline Fred Arnold

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2014, 11:06:01 am »
 ;D 4dog, you got any teeny weeny staples?
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Offline PatM

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2014, 12:21:44 pm »
Do you mean actually submerging them under a coating? You are best off using epoxy for that. Fly-rod forums have lots of info on doing that neatly.
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Offline Fred Arnold

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2014, 12:35:40 pm »
PatM, I got in a rush and added them with a water based super glue used in craft projects. It worked better than TB III that I used last time. I'm going to add multiple colors with a sponge to detract from the bright white background and then seal with tung oil or truoil.

I'm running late on the project, fell behind trying to get my trade bow done in time.
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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 12:36:26 pm »
Fred get with Bill, "Danzbar". He has done it and Ive seen it first hand. See what he has to say.
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Offline Fred Arnold

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 01:47:51 pm »
Added some color. This should look good for a "Hailey" bow. She's only 5 so I don't think she'll be hunting yet.
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Offline 4dog

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2014, 02:13:16 pm »
looks good from here!! like the design.
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Offline TRACY

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2014, 06:05:11 pm »
Quote from: PEARL DRUMS on August 13, 2014, 12:36:26 pm
Fred get with Bill, "Danzbar". He has done it and Ive seen it first hand. See what he has to say.

Bill would be a great resource for feathers as backing flair.


Tracy
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Offline Gsulfridge

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2014, 07:39:35 am »
I ran into a guy at a small gathering in Richmond, KY that had done some feather backing that would knock your eyes out!  What was his name. . . . . ? Gummy Bear?. . . Bear Bait?. . . .Bear Azz?. . .Anyway, his was excellent indeed.  He is quite the arrow builder as well. >:D
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Offline Fred Arnold

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2014, 08:01:10 am »
Had to get this one done. Been up canning pickles since midnight. I'll definitely PM Danzbar before I start my next one. Biggest problem I ran into was feathers not sticking along the oil line close to the quill. Figure I need to start removing the oil from them with dawn and then rinsing. I ended up adding a small drop of sglue and pressing them down with a cue tip until they stuck.

Ok Greg, what's his name and is he available for lessons?
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2014, 01:42:13 pm »
please try this in a scrap piece of wood,, but I think Heavy Gel MEdium,, made by golden would work, ,coat the back and they should stick to it,,, it drys clear,, then you could coat again over it,, but I think a spray finish would work better for the feather
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Offline burn em up chuck

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2014, 07:29:48 pm »
 go on primitive skills and ask Anthony for help he started that stuff

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Offline Danzn Bar

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2014, 09:19:46 pm »
Fred,
PM me any time, I'd be glad to provide you with my experience.  I'm not good at describing what I do in print, but there are a few past post I've tried to described it.  And I don't know how to add a link.  The thing I have learned is.... don't glue down the feathers with a different finish than what you end up with.  for example I glued down some feathers with a softer finish than what I added over it to provide a gloss finish.  after some shooting in cold weather the finished cracked.  The best way, I have found and I'm about to do it again on two bows I'm building for my daughter and son-in-law is.....I glue the feathers down with a product called flex coat.  I used it on fishing rods when I built custom rods in the 80's.  It's a two part epoxy.  Then added a final coat after the first has cured of the same.  Do a search on feather backing and on "Blackhawk inspired molly".  Here are a few pic's of the molly.  PM me when your ready, and I'll try to help.
By the way, Greg is a pretty good shot with a "pistol",  >:D  even though he has trouble with names ;D ;D  Bear Azz???? that one really made me laugh.  :laugh: :laugh:
Till next time,
DBar   
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Offline Fred Arnold

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Re: Adding feathers to bow backing "Help"
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2014, 09:48:48 pm »
DBar, that is some beautiful work there. I'll definitely be getting in touch. I've been under the weather last couple of days and just can't get motivated or remember much of anything right now.
Hopefully I'll kick whatever this is and get back on track in a day or two.
Fred
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