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Offline Slackbunny

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Re: Glass both sides board bow ??
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2014, 11:00:42 pm »
I remember watching a video of who I'm quite sure was Fred Bear. He was talking about the evolution of the bows his company made, and he talked briefly about applying fiberglass to both the belly and the back. He had found that adding it to the back was productive, but that adding it to the belly was not. You can't go wrong as a rookie glass bowyer following the advice of Fred Bear. I wouldn't bother with the belly if I were you.

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2014, 10:17:10 am »
When I was 13-14 I had a production one piece wood longbow that broke. Some how one made from a board sounds flimsy without backing. Spent time finding the perfect board and forming it up, don't want it to break. Will go with cloth and Titebond III backing then smooth it with epoxy. Will save the glass to rebuild a red oak bow designed for glass. My split stave should be ready for going primitive in January. Going to learn this bow building in increments.
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2014, 10:27:07 am »
I just got done with a 54# Red Oak board bow. It can be done, and I wasn't backing mine, Even if it broke, it wasn't getting backed.
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Offline PatM

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Re: Glass both sides board bow ??
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2014, 01:40:21 pm »
Why are your rawhide backing looking messy? No backing should look messy if applied properly.
 No reason to mix TB with Epoxy. Either or will get the job done if you want a smooth backing.
 You may want to revisit the bow board threads on here to see just how flimsy a board actually is.
 A wood backed bow is also just two boards glued together.

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2014, 07:03:44 pm »
Some how one made from a board sounds flimsy without backing.

I dunno man, unbacked bows fed humanity for thousands of years pretty efficiently, and we're all still OK :P Well, most of us (the ones around here are weird :D)

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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2014, 07:05:56 pm »
Just search my posts, must be 90% board bows up to 70#, selfies and backed
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Offline 4dog

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Re: Glass both sides board bow ??
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2014, 08:30:56 pm »
just made a 65# unbacked oasge bow...nothon flomsy about it...take a little more time dont rush it and build you a selfbow...back it with hickory ifya like
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Re: Glass both sides board bow ??
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2014, 08:55:24 pm »
I've been hunting with one since 2003, still ain't flimsy at 60#
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2014, 10:46:47 am »
Starting to think you guys are right. The red oak was not remotely as powerful as this maple thing. Ready to start tillering as soon as the tips are on. Right now it is pulling 60-65 lb. Where I went wrong with the first one was final tillering before shooting it.
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2014, 01:05:42 pm »
Why spend the time and effort putting tips on before you tiller the bow? If you leave the tips slightly wide you can cut in temporary string nocks to complete the tillering. You don't need finished tips to tiller a bow and in my mind it is a waste of time until you are sure the bow will survive.
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2014, 02:08:07 pm »
I have no doubt the bow will survive. The floor tiller is looking great like the first bow did. Really all I expect to do is reduce the weight and shoot it some before final tillering. The tips were no problem as I already had some home made micarta and just had to glue them on. When this works out after 1000 shots I intend to redo it without backing and make it all pretty with antler tips and such. Just have to get over the nervousness about shooting something not laminated. Lam wood is much stronger than one piece.
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2014, 02:32:56 pm »
I have no doubt the bow will survive. The floor tiller is looking great like the first bow did. Really all I expect to do is reduce the weight and shoot it some before final tillering. The tips were no problem as I already had some home made micarta and just had to glue them on. When this works out after 1000 shots I intend to redo it without backing and make it all pretty with antler tips and such. Just have to get over the nervousness about shooting something not laminated. Lam wood is much stronger than one piece.

Damn, you were easy to convince, now you have no doubt it will survive ??? And you are still going to back it after it survives a thousand shots? :o ::) That's a crap load of shooting, it ought to be shot in :D.
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Re: Glass both sides board bow ??
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2014, 05:18:15 pm »
Put Irish linen backing on and shot it in. Draws super smooth and shoots dead bang. Just have to even out the tiller a little and make it pretty. Unfortunately it's going to be a 40 lb bow.
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2014, 01:00:51 am »
im getting confused with this thread...no harm meant...just...ya know....hmmm.??
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Re: Glass both sides board bow ??
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2014, 07:44:54 am »
I don't even know where to start than other to say I'm reading a lot of wrong preconceived notions here by the o.p.  :-X