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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Titebond II turned red when dry
« on: July 08, 2014, 12:25:14 pm »
I noticed last night that where my handle is glued on that the dried glue has turned Red. Also, glue on the cap that had dried had also turned red. Any ideas why this would happen?
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Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2014, 12:37:31 pm »
sure it wasnt Titeblood II???? lol
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2014, 12:40:47 pm »
LOL, it isn't all of the glue, just patches, and it is about the color of blood. I'll get a photo tonight.
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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2014, 01:00:50 pm »
If you can easily and clearly see your glue lines visibly with the titebond glues then you more than likely have a poor glue line,or one less than what should be desired and carried out with that kind of glue....titebond glues need a flawless glue line and mating surfaces....it is a poor "gap" filing glue,and won't hold well if not executed correctly
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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2014, 01:44:16 pm »
New and improved wild cherry flavor?  ??? Let's face it; the original didn't taste very good.
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2014, 02:45:12 pm »
It is actually the glue that had come out during the clamping. So It is on the surface of the handle of the bow (below the glue joint). Also on the cap on the bottle itself, not as a pronounced Red, but still red.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 04:22:31 pm »
What wood(s) are you gluing? Could it be reacting to the wood or the wood bleeding into the glue?
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 06:21:08 pm »
Quote from: Rick T. on July 08, 2014, 01:44:16 pm
New and improved wild cherry flavor?  ??? Let's face it; the original didn't taste very good.

Flavor wasn't so bad, hate the pastey texture. I will say that it sure sticks to your ribs.
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2014, 08:43:50 pm »
Pat, that was my first thought, but It also did it on the cap of the glue, so that rules that out.
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Offline Crogacht

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2014, 08:47:44 pm »
Well I found this on the titebond website:

What are the resulting colors when the Titebond Wood Glues dry?

Titebond III Ultimate – light brown
Titebond Original – yellow
Titebond II Premium – translucent yellow
Titebond Dark – brown
Titebond Liquid Hide – transparent amber
Titebond Melamine – colorless
Titebond No-Run, No-Drip – transparent with a light brown tint
Titebond Polyurethane – yellowish amber
Titebond Translucent – colorless
Titebond Instant Bond – colorless

Maybe you have one of the amber or brown ones and it's maybe a bit more amber or brown than usual for whatever reason  ???
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2014, 11:30:08 pm »
Contact the Titebond tech support. They are very helpful.    I called them to find out how to make the glue release and the tech guy told me to heat it to 150 deg. and the glue would release.
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Offline Hamish

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2014, 02:00:43 am »
My guess is that the contents of the bottle have settled. Try giving it a thorough shake/mixing( really well), and see if anything changes. Pva glues have a very long shelf life, but they contents can separate if not used for a while.
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2014, 03:26:16 am »
Quote from: Hamish on July 09, 2014, 02:00:43 am
My guess is that the contents of the bottle have settled. Try giving it a thorough shake/mixing( really well), and see if anything changes. Pva glues have a very long shelf life, but they contents can separate if not used for a while.

They also go to heck and separate if they have been frozen.
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2014, 09:16:20 am »
Heat would be the only issue. My garage isn't insulated. I haven't had this bottle more than about a month.
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Re: Titebond II turned red when dry
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 09:42:57 am »
What wood species did you glue? Any ipé you worked with? Ipé dust (the yellow powder) reacts with ammonia and turns bright red. I only work with Titebond 3, but I've never seen anything turn red with the glue...
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